From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:58:51 +0900 Message-ID: <87sk7u3bac.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <87eijjzrkd.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <20100317143519.GB4381@muc.de> <87k4t92hmb.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net> <87ocij1wdu.fsf@home.jasonrumney.net> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269122357 22966 80.91.229.12 (20 Mar 2010 21:59:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, Lennart Borgman , emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@jurta.org, dann@ics.uci.edu, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de, jasonr@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 20 22:59:08 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nt6hI-0005a6-1F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:59:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34975 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nt6hH-0004B7-KM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:59:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nt6hB-0004AP-VN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47408 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nt6h9-00049I-I7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:59:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nt6h7-0004Y9-QS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:58:59 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp11.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.73]:53815) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nt6h7-0004Y0-IR; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:58:57 -0400 Original-Received: from 61.245.22.49.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([61.245.22.49] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp11.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1Nt6h2-0003lt-Rj; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:58:52 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EDB682BD5E; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:58:51 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:50:17 -0400") Original-Lines: 23 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122386 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I think it is a very good suggestion to be able to have one color for > regions that act in way compatible with almost every editing > environment and one that acts in the way special to Emacs. > > I have nothing against this feature, but I point out that choosing > another color, and making it properly distinctive in two different > color environments (dark background and light background), is not > going to be easy. Even if you can find good colors, it's still a dreadfully bad interface. Having different colored regions, which act sometimes-the-same, sometimes-differently, is maybe _slightly_ better than having _identical-looking_ regions which act that way, but it's still very hard to use, and confusingly non-obvious (especially for naive users). -Miles -- Laughter, n. An interior convulsion, producing a distortion of the features and accompanied by inarticulate noises. It is infectious and, though intermittent, incurable.