From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Differences between ibuffer and dired Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 23:57:11 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87sk414kms.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1278108771 26498 80.91.229.12 (2 Jul 2010 22:12:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 22:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Deniz Dogan' , 'Lennart Borgman' , Drew Adams , 'Emacs-Devel devel' To: joakim@verona.se Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 03 00:12:48 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUoTX-00011g-Fz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Jul 2010 00:12:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52408 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OUoTW-0002EA-Ii for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:12:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42582 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OUoTK-0002Ci-1g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:12:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUoTH-0002Xf-Uh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:12:33 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-out2.starman.ee ([85.253.0.4]:41140 helo=mx2.starman.ee) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OUoTH-0002XT-P0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:12:31 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx2.starman.ee Original-Received: from mail.starman.ee (82.131.28.160.cable.starman.ee [82.131.28.160]) by mx2.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA513F414B; Sat, 3 Jul 2010 01:12:27 +0300 (EEST) In-Reply-To: (joakim@verona.se's message of "Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:56:23 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:126712 Archived-At: > Thats why I suggested a separate branch. All the changes could then be > tried in the branch withouth inconveniencing users. I think no separate branch is necessary. You can write a set of functions that defines a "theme" with keybindings and send it to the emacs-devel or distribute with the help of the package system, so everyone could easily try new keybindings. > In the end it would be neat with some skinning facility, and keymaps > could be part of that. I dont think you could please all users. The kind > of skin to use could then be chosen on install. > > I also dont like the argument that a specific keymap should be kept > because its been like that forever. I've been using Emacs since 1988 and > I would still much prefer good consistent keymaps to inconsistent ones. I agree. I've been using Emacs since 1989 and I don't mind relearning some keybindings for consistency. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/