From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the default for `send-mail-function' Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 02:10:29 +0900 Message-ID: <87sjqv19q2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87pqlztipk.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309198879 22740 80.91.229.12 (27 Jun 2011 18:21:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:21:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jason Rumney To: Julien Danjou Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 27 20:21:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QbGQt-0005M8-3f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:21:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58352 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbGQr-0001lP-F5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:21:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41874) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbFKd-0008W0-5t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:10:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbFKZ-0007Rc-KM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:10:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:52194) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QbFKZ-0007P5-5D; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:10:39 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DA93FA06E2; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 02:10:25 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B2EFC1A2628; Tue, 28 Jun 2011 02:10:29 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.1.93a under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" cd1f8c4e81cd XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.223 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141082 Archived-At: Julien Danjou writes: > On Mon, Jun 27 2011, Jason Rumney wrote: > > >> Another random idea: If that's the main problem, then if the gnu.org MTA > >> would open a listening port on port 587, and accept mail to gnu.org on > >> that port, then we could just have the bug reports use > >> `smtpmail-send-it' to eggs.gnu.org:587 directly... > > > > Why port 587? Port 25 is the standard for incoming mail to the mail > > server's domain. > > Port 587 is for submission. But it's not meant for such a use, in > theory. :) Actually, this clearly fails to conform to the RFC. Authentication is mandated because a submission agent must know the identity of submitting entity, while the whole point of this discussion is (more or less :-) that some users don't know their own identities. An equally reliable way to handle this would be to format the message using report-emacs-bug as usual, then ship it via HTTP/HTTPS post to a CGI that mails it to the bug address. Or use NNTP to inject it via, say, Gmane.