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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: secure plist store
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:34:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sjqrq77u.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87y60jvu8g.fsf-ueno@unixuser.org

On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 07:18:23 +0900 Daiki Ueno <ueno@unixuser.org> wrote: 

DU> Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:
>> They are used.  See the backend filtering in `auth-source-search'
>> coupled with `auth-source-backend-parse-parameters'.  When you specify a
>> simple string as an auth-source, the host, port, and user are nil (so
>> that backend instance applies to every host, port, and user).

DU> I'm now confused about that, while those members are set in
DU> auth-source-backend-parse-parameters, they are not referred from any
DU> code in auth-source.el.  Am I missing something (I tried M-x occur oref
DU> and slot-value)?

`auth-source-search' will filter the backends with any keys that are
applicable before it actually searches each backend:

#+begin_src lisp
      (setq filtered-backends (copy-sequence backends))
      (dolist (backend backends)
        (dolist (key keys)
          ;; ignore invalid slots
          (condition-case signal
              (unless (eval `(auth-source-search-collection
                              (plist-get spec key)
                              (oref backend ,key)))
                (setq filtered-backends (delq backend filtered-backends))
                (return))
            (invalid-slot-name))))
#+end_src

So for instance a backend with host "x" will match a search spec of
:host '("x" "y") or :host "x".

DU> Frankly I don't see any reason to use defclass here - why not using
DU> CLOS inheritance if you want to define members specific to some
DU> class derived from auth-source-backend (I mean host/port/user are
DU> only valuable for Secrets API backend)?
...
DU> I was really confused about auth-source.el usage of EIEIO, where
DU> defclass is only used as defstruct.  It looks simply overkill such a
DU> purpose and misleading.

For now, yes, since we only had netrc and Secrets API backends, which
are too different, and the Secrets API didn't need most of the prompting
and modification functionality.  But notice how much code is shared
between plstore and netrc.  I'll take a look at using the EIEIO
inheritance to abstract the prompting and modification to a generic
file-based class from which the plstore and netrc classes will derive.
That was the original intent with the class hierarchy, at least.

I don't think, in any case, that it's overkill or misleading to use
EIEIO instead of defstruct.  In many ways it's a nicer API and even as a
simple defstruct stand-in it's better.  Perhaps it's not suitable for
large collections of objects, but `auth-sources' has at most a few
entries.

Ted




  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-30 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 203+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-23 18:54 Emacs RPC Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-24  3:21 ` T.V. Raman
2011-04-24 20:04   ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-24 20:24     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-25 17:55       ` Richard Stallman
2011-05-01 18:53         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02  2:13           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 21:25             ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-02 22:54               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-24 20:26     ` Daniel Colascione
2011-04-25 17:56       ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-24 17:40 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-24 18:00   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-24 19:56     ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-25  1:21     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25  1:26       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-25  2:05         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 12:57       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 12:59     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 17:00 ` Emacs RPC security (was: Emacs RPC) Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 17:35   ` Emacs RPC security Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 18:02     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 18:17       ` Daniel Colascione
2011-04-25 19:43         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-25 18:38       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-25 18:57         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-01 18:55       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-01 22:02         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-01 22:19           ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el (was: Emacs RPC security) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 15:20             ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el James Cloos
2011-05-02 18:52             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 18:59               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-02 19:21                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 23:36                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03  0:29                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03  1:01                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03  1:22                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 22:04                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-04  1:37                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 17:45                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 18:07                                 ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-30 18:14                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 18:54                                     ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-30 19:13                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-30 19:43                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 23:10                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31  7:11                                         ` Robert Pluim
2011-05-31 10:13                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 18:19                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 19:39                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 20:32                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-01  0:37                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-01  1:29                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01  2:04                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-01 12:37                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 13:34                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-01 14:39                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-01 15:14                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02  4:09                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-02  8:57                                                                 ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-02 11:45                                                                   ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-02 12:24                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-02 14:20                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 15:03                                                                       ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-02 15:31                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-03 21:54                                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-05 15:11                                                                             ` netrc field encryption in auth-source (was: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-26 10:09                                                                               ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-27 15:43                                                                                 ` GPGME (was: netrc field encryption in auth-source) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-27 21:47                                                                                   ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-28 11:56                                                                                     ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-28 20:36                                                                                       ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29  8:07                                                                                         ` secure plist store Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29  8:25                                                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-29  9:05                                                                                             ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 10:46                                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 11:30                                                                                                 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 12:38                                                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 13:39                                                                                                     ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 10:54                                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 11:59                                                                                             ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 12:58                                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 14:34                                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 18:31                                                                                                 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 12:23                                                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 23:10                                                                                                     ` Daiki Ueno
2011-07-01 13:36                                                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 14:37                                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 14:36                                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30  7:43                                                                                             ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 12:19                                                                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 13:42                                                                                                 ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 14:54                                                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 22:18                                                                                                     ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 22:34                                                                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2011-07-01  2:28                                                                                                         ` Daiki Ueno
2011-07-01 13:18                                                                                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-07-03  2:13                                                                                                             ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 11:09                                                                                         ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 13:15                                                                                           ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-29 17:21                                                                                             ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 18:41                                                                                               ` GPGME Daiki Ueno
2011-06-30 12:46                                                                                                 ` GPGME Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 13:09                                                                 ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-02 13:44                                                                   ` Daiki Ueno
2011-06-03 21:50                                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31  1:25                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-31 18:21                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 21:18                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-03 21:48                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-05 14:55                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-09 18:02                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-09 21:06                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-10 16:05                                                   ` netrc field encryption in auth-source (was: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13 21:47                                                     ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-13 22:21                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-15 16:20                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-15 21:21                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-16  3:49                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-16  8:32                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-16 13:35                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-16 20:28                                                               ` Reiner Steib
2011-06-16 21:05                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-17  1:03                                                                 ` should docstrings include all defcustom options? (was: netrc field encryption in auth-source) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-17  7:17                                                               ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Robert Pluim
2011-06-17  9:32                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-17  9:53                                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-17 10:21                                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-21 19:32                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 19:51                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-21 20:19                                                               ` Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight (was: netrc field encryption in auth-source) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 21:01                                                                 ` Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:07                                                                   ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-21 22:17                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:25                                                                       ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-21 22:36                                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:46                                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-21 22:57                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22  9:01                                                                               ` Antoine Levitt
2011-06-22  8:27                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22  8:30                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22  8:52                                                                               ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22  9:11                                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22  9:17                                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22  9:34                                                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22  9:41                                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 14:25                                                                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 14:49                                                                                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 17:45                                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 18:48                                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-23  8:01                                                                                               ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 15:51                                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 19:24                                                                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 20:27                                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 20:43                                                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 21:36                                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22  2:52                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 14:53                                                                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 15:50                                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2011-06-22 16:19                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 17:16                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 19:50                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 19:56                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 21:32                                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 20:27                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-06-22 20:38                                                                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 20:53                                                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-22 15:55                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-22 16:51                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 15:56                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-30 13:16                                                               ` netrc field encryption in auth-source Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-06 15:06                                               ` Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el Stefan Monnier
2011-06-09 17:56                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-06-10 20:44                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-03 15:20                   ` client certs and CRL lists for GnuTLS (was: Opportunistic STARTTLS in smtpmail.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 15:25                     ` client certs and CRL lists for GnuTLS Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03 15:47                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 21:54                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-04  1:39                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-08 20:59                             ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-09 10:52                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 15:00                                 ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-09 15:30                                   ` Gnus ERT tests inside Emacs (was: client certs and CRL lists for GnuTLS) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-09 15:46                                     ` Gnus ERT tests inside Emacs David Engster
2011-05-09 15:58                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-11 21:36                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02  9:37           ` Emacs RPC security Julien Danjou
2011-05-02 18:57           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 19:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-02 19:56               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-02 22:56                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03  0:25                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03  0:51                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03  1:12                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03  1:16                         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03  1:27                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03  1:34                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-03  2:35                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-03  6:24                         ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-05-03 13:47                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-03  0:35                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-26 12:13 ` Emacs RPC Sebastian Rose
2011-04-26 13:18   ` Stefan Monnier

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