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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 00:05:11 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sjkbib14.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ipl7zaea.fsf@lifelogs.com>

Ted Zlatanov writes:
 > On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:28:00 +0900 YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu <mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp> wrote: 
 > 
 > YM> The only issue would be those who are not familiar with Mac OS X
 > YM> development tend to rant "Carbon is deprecated!" without knowing the
 > YM> detail or its actual use in many applications.
 > 
 > In defense of the NS port, It is compatible with GNUstep and yours
 > isn't, and that IIRC was a major reason to bring the NS port into the
 > trunk.

I don't recall Yamamoto-san ever complaining that the NS port is in
and the Mac port is out.

He's just understandably exasperated that every time a third party
suggests including it, somebody who is not a Mac developer says that
it uses Carbon APIs, and since Apple has deprecated Carbon APIs, that
makes it a dead end anyway.  The first clause of that argument is a
whole truth, the second a half-truth, and the conclusion is bunk.



  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-23 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-12 13:11 C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion) Carsten Mattner
2011-12-14 17:56 ` chad
2011-12-14 20:50 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-14 21:45   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-15  6:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15 20:42       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-15 20:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15 21:22           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-15 21:24       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 12:46         ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 13:33           ` Jan D.
2011-12-16 14:21             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 14:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 19:00                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 19:02                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 20:11                     ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 20:14                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 20:19                         ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 20:21                           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 21:12                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 21:21                               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-16 21:11                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 21:22                             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17  8:33                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 21:24                             ` Andreas Schwab
2011-12-17  3:41                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-17  4:36                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-12-17  8:32                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-17  9:46                                 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 12:03                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-17 13:50                                     ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 15:39                                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 15:49                                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 16:08                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-17 16:09                                   ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 16:20                                     ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 16:47                                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 17:15                                         ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 17:19                                           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 17:46                                             ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 18:06                                               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17 18:18                                                 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 18:20                                                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19  8:40                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-19 10:59                                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 11:20                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-19 11:51                                           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 14:04                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-19 11:53                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-17  9:27                               ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-16 21:49                             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-17  8:13                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-17  0:22                             ` Paul Eggert
2011-12-17  9:14                               ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 17:30                                 ` Adrian Robert
2011-12-17 17:53                                   ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-17 18:19                                 ` Paul Eggert
2011-12-19 18:18                                   ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-19 21:31                                     ` Paul Eggert
2011-12-19  9:00                               ` René Kyllingstad
2011-12-19 11:00                                 ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 15:53                                   ` Jan D.
2011-12-19 16:52                                     ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 17:04                                       ` chad
2011-12-19 17:25                                       ` René Kyllingstad
2011-12-19 17:47                                         ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 22:27                                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-12-19 22:29                                           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 23:42                                             ` chad
2011-12-20  0:03                                         ` chad
2011-12-20  1:12                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-20  1:28                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-20  1:40                                             ` chad
2011-12-20  2:14                                               ` Glenn Morris
2011-12-20  2:32                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-20  9:24                                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-20 18:33                                                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-21  0:38                                                     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-21 10:42                                                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-22  0:34                                                         ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-22 11:23                                                           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-22  0:42                                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-22 11:28                                                     ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-23  1:28                                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-23  8:09                                                         ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-24  1:54                                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-26 15:31                                                             ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-26 15:46                                                               ` David Reitter
2011-12-26 16:26                                                               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-26 16:41                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-27  1:28                                                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-27  1:14                                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-23 13:26                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-23 15:05                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2011-12-27 15:52                                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-28  4:50                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-12-28  7:36                                                               ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-28 10:42                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-28 13:44                                                                   ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-29  0:18                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-29  0:57                                                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-29 15:15                                                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-30  0:34                                                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-30 14:52                                                                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-30 22:12                                                                           ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-31 13:22                                                                             ` Mac OS-compatible ports (was: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion)) Ted Zlatanov
2011-12-31 14:27                                                                               ` Mac OS-compatible ports Jan D.
2012-01-01  1:54                                                                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01 10:48                                                                                   ` Jan Djärv
2012-01-01 15:31                                                                                     ` Adrian Robert
2012-01-02  0:13                                                                                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01  1:47                                                                               ` Mac OS-compatible ports (was: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion)) YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01  7:02                                                                                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01 21:18                                                                                   ` Mac OS-compatible ports David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-02  6:04                                                                                     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01 10:50                                                                                 ` Mac OS-compatible ports (was: C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion)) Carsten Mattner
2012-01-01 14:06                                                                                 ` Mac OS-compatible ports Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-02  0:43                                                                                   ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2012-01-01  6:26                                                                               ` Leo
2012-01-01 10:36                                                                                 ` Jan Djärv
2012-01-01 10:48                                                                                   ` Carsten Mattner
2012-01-02 10:08                                                                                   ` Christian Lynbech
2012-01-07 13:09                                                                                     ` Dimitri Fontaine
2012-01-08  1:07                                                                                       ` Dave Abrahams
2012-01-08  1:10                                                                                       ` Dave Abrahams
2012-01-08  1:28                                                                                       ` chad
2012-01-08  8:37                                                                                         ` Dimitri Fontaine
2012-01-01 13:24                                                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-01 19:22                                                                                 ` chad
2011-12-20  1:57                                             ` C-g crash in C-x C-f (OSX Lion) Leo
2011-12-20  7:29                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2011-12-19 18:15                                       ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-12-19 18:50                                         ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 19:40                                           ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2011-12-19 20:16                                             ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-19 20:46                                               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-20 17:34                                                 ` Adrian Robert
2011-12-17 18:26             ` Richard Stallman
2011-12-17 18:30               ` Carsten Mattner
     [not found]                 ` <CACY+HvrywuKjP8-TtONhaX-D6hK7WPKFhe2gqWA9BkjkpZ_uAg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-12-18 10:22                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-18 13:52                     ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-18 14:35                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-18 15:09                         ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-18 17:58                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19  6:32                         ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-19 11:04                           ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 13:33                             ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 15:55                             ` Jan D.
2011-12-19 16:53                               ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 17:48                                 ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-19 18:51                                   ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19 20:16                                     ` Jan Djärv
2011-12-18 16:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-18 17:11                       ` Carsten Mattner
2011-12-19  2:51                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-12-19 11:10                   ` Carsten Mattner

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