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From: Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Is it time to remove INTERNAL_FIELD?
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 16:07:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sibr2b10.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83iocn0x3x.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 23 Apr 2015 16:53:38 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 15:30:26 +0200
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> we should remove the macros that don't do anything.
>
> What this macro does is allow you to use field names like 'foo', when
> the field is really called 'foo_'.
>
> I think it's okay to remove INTERNAL_FIELD, but I think we should keep
> the trailing underscore appended in BVAR and KVAR.  That's how all
> this started: the fields were renamed to have a trailing underscore so
> that code that used foo->bar instead of BVAR (foo, bar) would be
> immediately flagged by the compiler.
>
>> As for accidental access, I'm sure these rare errors will be caught by
>> the code review / test suite.
>
> We don't want to rely on code reviews, since they are very informal
> and their coverage is too low to be efficient.
>
> Based on bitter past experience with similar errors that lay low for
> months, sometimes for years, I'd rather not give up those underscores
> in BVAR and KVAR, which means the struct fields should retain them.

I'm totally fine with this:

    INLINE void
    kset_last_kbd_macro (struct kboard *kb, Lisp_Object val)
    {
      kb->Vlast_kbd_macro_ = val;
    }

just as I'm fine with this:

    INLINE void
    kset_last_kbd_macro (struct kboard *kb, Lisp_Object val)
    {
      kb->Vlast_kbd_macro = val;
    }

Both are boilerplate that doesn't require additional thought. In the
first case, it's maybe more explicit that `Vlast_kbd_macro_' should not
be accessed outside the interface function `kset_last_kbd_macro'.

But this I don't like:

    INLINE void
    kset_last_kbd_macro (struct kboard *kb, Lisp_Object val)
    {
      kb->INTERNAL_FIELD (Vlast_kbd_macro) = val;
    }

It's not obvious how simple or intricate INTERNAL_FIELD is or what it
does. At the first glance, looks like C++ member function call.

Oleh





  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-23 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-23  9:55 Is it time to remove INTERNAL_FIELD? Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 10:08 ` Paul Eggert
2015-04-23 10:10   ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 10:17     ` Paul Eggert
2015-04-23 10:56       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 10:56         ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 11:17           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 11:32             ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 12:01               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 12:05                 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 12:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-25 10:57                     ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-25 11:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-25 14:28                         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-25 14:41                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28  7:39                             ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-28 13:20                               ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-28 15:07                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 15:11                                 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-28 15:23                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-28 18:58                                     ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-28 19:21                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 11:00       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 13:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-23 13:30   ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 13:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 14:07       ` Oleh Krehel [this message]
2015-04-23 14:50         ` Nicolas Richard
2015-04-23 15:34           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-24 10:44             ` Nicolas Richard
2015-04-23 15:29         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 16:32           ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 17:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 17:09               ` Oleh Krehel
2015-04-23 17:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 17:14             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-23 17:31               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-23 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-04-23 13:33   ` Oleh Krehel

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