From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recent commit modifying mark-whole-buffer (master/aeb613ea95b7970e66d663ec5cba54e9ec0528fa) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:48:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87shy4a8d4.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87lh3x4dkb.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpngx69z.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuu4bo3y.fsf@gnus.org> <83inz0wprx.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1461934173 3507 80.91.229.3 (29 Apr 2016 12:49:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stephan.Mueller@microsoft.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 29 14:49:20 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aw7rE-0004TD-HY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:49:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54154 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aw7rA-00020x-TI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:49:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53872) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aw7r1-0001qE-Qj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aw7qq-0005rN-0p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:41236) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aw7qp-0005oM-QT; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:48:55 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw7qZ-0007LL-Mt; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:48:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83inz0wprx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:41:38 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203414 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I assumed it was an uncontroversial fix -- there are many commands that >> work differently in the minibuffer exactly because we don't want to >> include the prompt. > > Fix of what problem? I was saying that the problem is not clear to > me? Well, the problem was that mark-whole-buffer marked the prompt in the minibuffer. :-) >> I don't quite follow. If you want to mark the prompt, there's a >> gazillion ways of doing that, including `C-u C-a C-'. Or just hold >> down `'. :-) > > Are we mis-communicating? I thought the suggestion on the table, to > which I objected, was to make the prompt have a property that would > preclude doing all these things. > >> (By the way, I think it would be nice if `' didn't enter the >> prompt.) > > And I don't understand why you think so. We were allowed to do so for > eons, why suddenly change that? I think we must be miscommunicating. On the one hand you seem to be suggesting that we should make the prompt more special than it is now, and on the other hand, you seem to be suggesting that we shouldn't, because we haven't for eons? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no