From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric S Fraga Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 10:46:14 +0100 Organization: CPSE, Department of Chemical Engineering, University College London (UCL) Message-ID: <87shvt7kt5.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> References: <87h9cdmj6t.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <5775A512.4020803@gmail.com> <8337ntvm2d.fsf@gnu.org> <87h9c9lqll.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467366701 29450 80.91.229.3 (1 Jul 2016 09:51:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 09:51:41 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 01 11:51:33 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bIv6i-0004VF-IZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 11:51:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60729 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bIv6e-00029O-Pu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 05:51:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60071) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bIv28-00060q-Bv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 05:46:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bIv24-0007jX-3D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 05:46:47 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:51151) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bIv23-0007iw-SS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 05:46:44 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bIv1u-0000ve-Ph for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 11:46:34 +0200 Original-Received: from 95.149.137.203 ([95.149.137.203]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 11:46:34 +0200 Original-Received: from e.fraga by 95.149.137.203 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 01 Jul 2016 11:46:34 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 95.149.137.203 X-Url: http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~ucecesf/ User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.94 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:BBUmkJS/M5MFsgc12htoDi4kfdQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205026 Archived-At: On Friday, 1 Jul 2016 at 16:17, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: [...] > So one observation is, Org got where it is by taking some existing Emacs > libraries, making them easier to use, and allowing them all to coexist > in a single document. I think this is the key issue: no other (or maybe some which I don't know) major packages in Emacs attempt to bring together such disparate functionalities. It may be that this goes against some design principles, most notably Unix with the basic idea of small tools which connect via pipes, but it does mean that it is possible to manage a significant project all within one file, or a collection files which are bound quite seamlessly. As a prose writing, programming and project management tool, it does (for me) what other tools have been unable to do. I am not being defensive when I say that org has changed how I work. Whether this is due to its design or in spite of its design, I cannot say, but having task management, babel, exporting and outlining all in one place is fantastic and makes org indispensable to my work now. I now just need gnus to be integrated within org and I will be set for life! :-) -- Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D)