From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 17:49:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87shvoaxv0.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <87h9cdmj6t.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <87k2h45wzm.fsf@mbork.pl> <8337nstpv5.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467737001 1747 80.91.229.3 (5 Jul 2016 16:43:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 16:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 05 18:43:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bKTRI-0003Za-OG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 18:43:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56269 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKTRI-0002oj-0W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 12:43:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41608) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKSbj-0007U0-HX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 11:49:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKSbh-0006Bf-Gb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 11:49:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([2a01:5e00:2:52::8]:45808) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKSbc-0006AI-9e; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 11:49:48 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFB61475A; Tue, 5 Jul 2016 17:49:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kBb9ZhG1JAGY; Tue, 5 Jul 2016 17:49:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (apn-77-112-87-171.dynamic.gprs.plus.pl [77.112.87.171]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 14B3A14756; Tue, 5 Jul 2016 17:49:34 +0200 (CEST) User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 25.1.50.3 In-reply-to: <8337nstpv5.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2a01:5e00:2:52::8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205185 Archived-At: On 2016-07-02, at 10:18, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Marcin Borkowski >> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2016 09:18:21 +0200 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Eric S Fraga >> >> By typing a letter or other "normal ASCII character", you insert it. >> You move point with arrow keys of C-b/C-f/C-n/C-p. >> By pressing C-a and C-e, you get to the beginning/end of line. >> By pressing DEL, you delete a character before point. >> By pressing C-d, you delete a character after point. >> By typing one or more asterisks followed by space at the beginning of >> a line, you start a heading (like in vanilla Emacs' Outline mode). >> By pressing TAB when point is on a headline, you cycle through various >> possible visibility states. >> >> Bam! Now you know basic Org-mode. > > Forgive me, but the above doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of > Org. And you certainly know that. Of course it doesn't. But this is what somebody might call "Basic Org-mode". My point was that you do not really need to "learn" basic Org-mode too much. > Mocking your opponents is not an efficient method of convincing them. I'm not sure "mocking" is the right word here; if this looked so, sorry. I just could not resist the joke. Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University