From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Future release of emacs-26 Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 17:07:58 +0100 Message-ID: <87sgt6321t.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <871s1ent89.fsf@gmail.com> <87pnovlr5z.fsf@gmail.com> <83k1f3k3rm.fsf@gnu.org> <87y339g9g7.fsf_-_@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="215502"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 22 18:12:35 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hTTr0-000trU-Bz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 18:12:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47294 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTTqy-0005f1-Nc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 12:12:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57877) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTTnS-0002hn-Cu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 12:08:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTTnM-0005Ci-RF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 12:08:52 -0400 Original-Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:40106) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hTTnK-00030z-HX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 May 2019 12:08:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=vB15i3wqEkIliSkLoMZn3LqPEwwga4OaUGqW555x1XI=; b=FDJyYWyBom2B3qkBQAIdHPIUY USUy3O9vtU9lRyhxw1DicyCTOV0IeAg3k6nChTDXiU+cnG6emM/5RGRK5XO3rupuW6pEfuSwYT1LS jzFRMDELKYopiFp30pySoqPU0cFRRhfrSd6npyV+RwlCXky23xHbGmQz4+3qluffSPAasGMOhIZ+f PaoEXAFm93yEpbe1D0HEBD0SDOZDBApxpewDMwAdU2A4Wo0QybJNSB7svP0Nj0vKkpqefEb0VGEsj QGtvoTomDMQSWj6o/Z4AlYrFc/4iRsYut/iL7iPE6Wb+kn5+HEQ3yB1pxuW65tcV70IqA9ZZ5Jwh7 KTHWD9N1w==; Original-Received: from cpc142652-benw12-2-0-cust953.16-2.cable.virginm.net ([82.21.43.186]:46072 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91) (envelope-from ) id 1hTTmY-00077n-V7; Wed, 22 May 2019 17:07:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87y339g9g7.fsf_-_@gmail.com> (Noam Postavsky's message of "Mon, 13 May 2019 20:34:48 -0400") X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 78.129.138.110 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:236901 Archived-At: Noam Postavsky writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> and we don't even know whether emacs-26 will be >> used for another "regular" release. > > So, I'm thinking we should be aiming for another "regular" release > around September, when the GNU ELPA package signing key expires. After > that, people downloading Emacs 26.2 won't be able to install GNU ELPA > packages without either disabling signature checking, or manually > installing the new key. > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/35414 > https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/gnu-elpa-keyring-update.html Another possibility would be to release Emacs-26.2.1 which is just Emacs-26.2 with the key updated. This could be done with a single commit and would not require an extensive pre-test period. It seems problematic to me to tie a release cycle to a key running out. There will be time that this is pragmatically just not possible, while performing one (or a number of) point releases would always be doable. Phil