From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU ELPA package discoverability Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 09:34:16 +0200 Message-ID: <87sgfnp2tj.fsf@gmx.de> References: <4e937898-ae46-710a-cbca-e452a1156fa1@yandex.ru> <2e630dc7-ba1d-e4c9-74b3-4da976db1e82@yandex.ru> <83blmdxus4.fsf@gnu.org> <831rn8vy6o.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="101043"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , theophilusx@gmail.com, Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 26 09:37:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jdU99-000QEZ-Kx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 26 May 2020 09:37:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59674 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdU98-0003dz-Et for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 26 May 2020 03:37:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42306) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdU6P-0000ZI-SF for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 May 2020 03:34:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:41675) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jdU6O-0006sh-HX; Tue, 26 May 2020 03:34:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1590478457; bh=SHstH4YuL2jIsBlWIkykL/biGU3b1JC9j8lQ911rj/Y=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=MfgxFoc7h6Gw59Q3u3yWfjbhjw+ZSWpu3DamKoPgT0wxErmvE9qst2B0xrKljeToL NliYk+t1kw9/94lZmRFnpQ8LAya7QCRW2ZNbT+BN+tRy6ED8WhHPX4M7viHxNRprss OSgcO6czU8o+VNnw/isP+CWws6FHiW1zDNyC7uHA= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([213.220.145.135]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MtOGU-1ijjaJ0xKA-00upQH; Tue, 26 May 2020 09:34:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 26 May 2020 00:15:02 -0400") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:bCO+EXpSRxuv+XJFbPhVe7Ln8DJBSxPDyX+YBc5t8KJye4vss8j djlyshV+sXOqRtE/INMuAfZjiyH112Gs1XmcdWWm6cMqc4WVbwrwOxYGji3zBwo/jvwsPem CB58i8oGcWOC4cAra1vaIwnqvpVsCgeOdxWEjwDRh01evoZtr7thzOJhbp35CnE4RhJIl5s FurUoDxrFDo0AEU6HmHXg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:8C68Nhx0AwE=:W9WQbmRbO6wQdgilNnB0tm wE7bLhLnbIymCEu7pT2oqne1uRfeNvAhpWSD05ZQ4Dec06k8M8ujDiSqy0zProz/5KeC/Qkzt KrEXklGO2ruvccysm1AmMgTWt+DNOY7kYVYNTrQL3K+AXmLv+VIcr4fYSYmpKnew6T7t02qzu uHY2U2OG6zCZ5MQjw1+OtKHiMTGBcySNOZafiU4eC5BcXfOL5nxEnfOB+pyLAydx1DaePEnbr sn+UKp+GS3u/CkE2eR+Ds65XBUCjVvsRNayHWJEMK9/wy722GZcongrbf+a3NAmkAM0PG4Nbv MtiNQacV8sA3bahMR/XPnla1DCWNsodfjblxuZTOAghhGnk1FSgZ9YEL4XDJ7jxPYSILzi16G rhpUv59/T531KdZIg9IYQbB3jyfQF+keU+j1u2A7ykUPZIZAcQCSUvOjG58+fmJemXfSn8/Nn 898FF5NgCvu/uQHo8uU14g8fh/T/3sgXTPVgeBtJxE8KhTVMtrF5ULEYgs/BjjWILBaKG2Hkj ER0jXHYxBxuwEtCQCJ91oiR2KvDUqtbK0pnqRSNen3Kd50uw+vIL8HhyY9gd2i/X7LAJalduC SwntsTWFRFYJiUpR1ru6moqv2iMngN50D3oWU9DK3n3Hm8tJrxu23HIaBhqDcPYrTK7+zWKi+ fM/QSUIjjHyrfffjVgK1H/eFq07OuQjMfWtoGzrYizreRukJHdfHTgMktHIEvLEZZzta/2Emg 8vT0HuUD+B1uD5aWQQcmDtuq3iM6qo7LozqRS0ckxz1EOEXyW1JWTL4q0P4t1+aBVyDyrJ64 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.21; envelope-from=michael.albinus@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/26 03:34:18 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251435 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > For instance, we could make a Savannah project for each package in GNU > ELPA, give access to the Emacs maintainers plus the developers of the > package, and make releases of GNU ELPA by collecting all those > packages. For Tramp, this would be a problem. It lives on savannah for 20+ years as own project already. One year ago I've started to distribute it also on GNU ELPA, and since there are some problems how the GNU ELPA archive expects a project layout (bug#32544), I always do a transition from the Tramp repo to the GNU ELPA repo, when releasing a new Tramp version. This wouldn't be possible any longer, if GNU ELPA releases are collected automatically from a project's repo on savannah. I don't know how many other packages would run into the same problem; maybe Tramp is just an exception. Best regards, Michael.