From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ricardo Wurmus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dark mode by default Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 13:52:55 +0200 Message-ID: <87sgblzyeg.fsf@elephly.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10090"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 27.1 Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Daniel =?utf-8?Q?Mart=C3=ADn?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 13 14:08:21 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHQns-0001ui-Ol for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 14:08:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42400 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHQYP-00070e-TI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 07:52:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42574) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHQXr-0006W8-Sc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 07:51:47 -0400 Original-Received: from sender4-of-o51.zoho.com ([136.143.188.51]:21195) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kHQXp-0004qK-26 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 07:51:47 -0400 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1599997902; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=apZhQkj97HF1tkuTbQdnf4pPdX1rfyKhxGo/d17aTPMP5mNS1LCiBKcHUOKKcfIAiBQonRW1XlzeFSzT54Mn07SSAExHk0uB23baIOJAiNaSBpbpaIpPTmHub/aj8Ur+Pmh5rAfkAs5468sqrJ4LWQckfOq8Rr6jxF8zBC7ango= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1599997902; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:From:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Message-ID:References:Subject:To; bh=fAX7RFdAbHi6x8VBKQj5k3rDZLcD5L5Z9ULuBLXPVvg=; b=bFz3xO8pntNf9WTf1IE77fj6R5m53AU4eR+inNgPp1rb8VHKJyS2+o0yLPFlbAVfDcnEmuz+Sw12Z8vTSMAl3kgYcj78NOFyrVGvGPPDop/Hmd/mBunPyQy54x/bM/hV1F9hypTBtU8yZOsPuR5dUY3gjWDQ9mHYJEbg5Uex4VY= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=elephly.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rekado@elephly.net; dmarc=pass header.from= header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1599997902; s=zoho; d=elephly.net; i=rekado@elephly.net; h=References:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-reply-to:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=fAX7RFdAbHi6x8VBKQj5k3rDZLcD5L5Z9ULuBLXPVvg=; b=ZumXoMUjjwMZSOIFEah6ti79VIX2cbFyqiZZ1K1qN3rnxweV9Xbtj2eU/stVUkMe kViUBZbXEWdBaBy8TbVCgbS2RVaF/MgwEp3b3/PR2QPxAUbOND2OEj1ahoD1jZFTC2T CoqoXW0hE25mMhor+X3jbsoByzTy6DzKxKWUKVvY= Original-Received: from localhost (p4fd5aca2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.213.172.162]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1599997899914285.0465433416174; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 04:51:39 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: X-URL: https://elephly.net X-PGP-Key: https://elephly.net/rekado.pubkey X-PGP-Fingerprint: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC X-ZohoMailClient: External Received-SPF: pass client-ip=136.143.188.51; envelope-from=rekado@elephly.net; helo=sender4-of-o51.zoho.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/13 07:51:43 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: 13 X-Spam_score: 1.3 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam_report: (1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_CSS_A=0.1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255460 Archived-At: Daniel Mart=C3=ADn writes: > Stefan Monnier writes: > >> The recent proposal to use dark mode by default brings up a technical >> question: I thought Emacs's default foreground and background colors >> were not hardcoded by Emacs but were taken from the user's "general" >> config (i.e. the desktop environment). > > In the case of macOS, Emacs does not use the system settings. Dark mode > only darkens the menu bar and tool bar, but the buffer is still black > text over white background. Some faces, like "region" *do* respect the > macOS color setting, though. It is exactly the same here on GNU+Linux with Gnome. --=20 Ricardo