From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again: Use monospaced fonts less Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:03:28 +0200 Message-ID: <87sgah1mjz.fsf@gnus.org> References: <835z7vjrg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvegkmo.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9ftf6n9.fsf@gnu.org> <835z7qfp6h.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft6lgw5y.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <1F8F3522-1E6C-40A3-B61A-B9B84FC0AD18@gnu.org> <87blh9gthg.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuv1f2y9.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8l9f1dl.fsf@gnus.org> <83lfgc50gb.fsf@gnu.org> <875z7gflpl.fsf@gnus.org> <83imbf2xux.fsf@gnu.org> <87lfgbarkk.fsf@gnus.org> <83zh4q195b.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32473"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 14 06:04:32 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kSY1g-0008K4-5M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:04:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34100 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSY1f-0001Ej-5z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:04:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45820) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSY0p-0000YM-9G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:03:39 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:43594) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSY0n-0000Zt-Bh; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 00:03:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=R7+M2JT3fJqvIXaZrLhUT5YrUxfCwizNJiB4sHUrtag=; b=IxWQ315WknZkVAMzbF1+c9UWzy xa9jodg5RQmjfGBbIXKVvTMYYxuoxn3SKQ+8fiG5x5TSCBLiIy0Js2OiUecW3ufSR1CR3azlH17RK yx5Xof0i3NikIjrl6h8x9xl4+d2OM6CNGFDl2TRnghCMny77HZUtt02T6uZnW/LeEshM=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kSY0f-0004ZZ-S8; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:03:32 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAKlBMVEX4mS/9qC/cZTXE OjnNjDGaajBCMTHJjTJrTDH8ukb7zmv8xFb23Y3///8dEh2UAAAAAWJLR0QN9rRh9QAAAAd0SU1F B+QKDgMqCmaWB8kAAAFJSURBVDjLvZM/T4QwGIdbjIlj30vJiS7YjyBfQAYS3e4SazpqornVG/wz OmhkZXDQmxwvTDdSvoHxQ0lBaAslRgffjT78nr59KQhVBWYRpAt6NQo6hseItod44oWM4Qa0AcLY Yci2WNQC0sY9FHoeQt4RVwAPdtjmlzUw+1cPd8m9M7HzLFJRgy5zzB8JTW4fUk5NVeXw51wIcROT uAKmSPhXqbiGhM9Vgmiw2H3ygfLT5uR6nZ5PZ9X6SV6ArZpewJJwXAayUEATsnhZ+jOQq/LdVsEZ hyCXZb6X9bqiMWRyvd7kYKtUZSCL/Q3YB/wuGdQADz9spiKDGb4Wb8Wqd8BG9PlR1ioYKecNAZfq 58R/7PFbFakS5nUwgLrU2Kly/1F/BM6OEbE3p3qICKx227cQiXqmFnhR6Fgegs6LJtGBe4hj33B0 7F+qim5HHhx/gQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMC0xMC0xNFQwMzo0MjoxMCswMDowMP8g FZ8AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjAtMTAtMTRUMDM6NDI6MTArMDA6MDCOfa0jAAAAAElF TkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: B. Fleischmann's _Welcome Tourist (1)_: "The Blessed" In-Reply-To: <83zh4q195b.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 13 Oct 2020 17:40:48 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257606 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> (setq mode-line-thing >> >> `(:propertize >> >> "some-string" >> >> :min-width 15)) [...] > Then perhaps I didn't understand your suggestion: how would the above > be different from what you originally had in mind about :min-width? When rendering the mode line, Emacs knows what pixel it started the first glyph of each mode line element on, and it knows where it ends, so it sounds conceptually sound to add a :min-width spec here (since it can just insert some space of the required length at the end). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no