From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Brooks Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:04:16 -0800 Message-ID: <87sg81pkxb.fsf@db48x.net> References: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> <56d1484e-6f41-575f-0fbb-fd2bd99ab152@yandex.ru> <87eejqnlxk.fsf@gnus.org> <875z52nlqa.fsf@gnus.org> <87lfdvjvx3.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7107"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 19 22:11:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kqjVu-0001k2-Nw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 22:11:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57750 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqjVs-0007JT-PJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 16:11:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqjOv-0004mo-Hv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 16:04:34 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp-out-4.mxes.net ([2605:d100:2f:10::315]:61516) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqjOs-0002Q7-1a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 16:04:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Customer-MUA (mua.mxes.net [10.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 63D4E7598F; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 16:04:18 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mxes.net; s=mta; t=1608411859; bh=/jSeyxov0r7YTMXg6CQqqNz75ypyJylDuRmK60vXEO4=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EzRzGH1nOZVmtLldtZgyG7fyU6vr9MMJTwl+Ed+gijES8U0Nh+IDfJCBzN8dS3umL hqmRXAmeb8ekHZTM1Pa17isaI/6lqrC8DqxhHWcSiI4yAhqKhEohkBpXOBkdKcyVSb nUpL/s7MZT+9AofSQL4yOVcVICbi1OMrlDNsiato= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGOfPtRkwAAABJQ TFRFpKfbdou67PD6JjJgAwUWXGSeIcyLHgAAAkZJREFUOI1VU8Fy6yAMxLi+Q13fCZ3cnQL3dqTc 7RD+/1feStDXVnXHDuvVSivZTMba2GPdw3gyCGcMAFxTyrTd9dwGoxHiZX9PmRFUHYAQlGGtXY+F Uk0SJOxgJiUEnH1qkitT9D+pQub7qGAmUbR6bu3CvI96Yv6QqkBBMrsyfZccr1/RDXGDTLf4P7ZY glVxe2V+/ACXWO1gvDO9/gDRpFFVmPluvLcmBjd5H6d8DEte+Pbk4rcY/Fa5tLKLOtCZsuQKYhpa LOkYDT7hESya7/WIET3lfQBqX0pwFtbI832Is0ayMUR9B+12xjgPCQ089cfwkCkX6L5TPmRelJTh zMS0Sz1PyjLAMCUWjcmgQLWQMds+e3aaauZDf9dU9A2/8kPVF2odCUoMKHkfjJR+mbgC+DRiycw5 3XSqGe6HmhN/AWjHypkAXOAFW5EiuA1ge2GiZuMb0s1fSEXcATeLUfbyEY2L8yPOmdSsdghQXx3K pz2eoeXuYvMCINVFDrCdNfVUp4eJ6cSEbjbgFjBEvonGGTrgv9cHjAc8aVgSAPoxaONbzfwhDIhR at7IIS7fAGiDSwIA9alhhTBzfA7YM2FY6eMwayrIGK8FDFmshmUA43WqhFtpvoqG9HHaJ7fqtgTz 8EWVkgZgtsylFliHDgk0MB7KAEC45C/rgnGvanNLXyzOeTzcT2nw/N44gfrtYXRQLoz9Q3TgmJRx 2Mx/Q51qzpm+l3m8z2SWBqC5+PZXAtNYlGFf/gKfHfjFkDT4x7od7R+w3Ls+ZdQBuQAAAABJRU5E rkJggg== In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sat, 19 Dec 2020 00:11:32 -0500") X-Sent-To: Received-SPF: none client-ip=2605:d100:2f:10::315; envelope-from=db48x@db48x.net; helo=smtp-out-4.mxes.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261286 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > The page has a bunch of charts and graphs, but you have to enable > > Javascript to see them. (And, no, the Javascript isn't free.) > > That is not a good state of affairs. Would someone who is skilled at > interpersonal relationships like to ask him politely to make that JS > code free, or convert the information to a directly readable format > and post that, or some other adequate solution? You can view it locally using Jupyter Notebook, which is a bit like Maxima or Macsyma but with Python instead of Lisp, and uses the Modified BSD license. On my Fedora machine I installed it with "dnf install python3-notebook", then run Jupyter with "jupyter notebook commentary.ipynb". It took me a while to find the right package name, because it doesn't have the name "Jupyter" in either the name or the short description; an odd choice. db48x