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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264937 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> What the default completion predicate should be is totally up for >> discussion, and we could take a poll. (Cries of horror ensue.) > > The current master already makes the behavior incompatible, so I'm not > sure I understand how would you like to have a discussion about > something that is already a "fait accompli". I'm not sure what you mean? What's a fait accompli here? > Moreover, I thought I _was_ discussing how to make this filtering less > radical and dangerous, but all I got in response was "don't worry, we > are talking about this theoretical non-existing command, not about > changing how M-x behaves". And now it turns out it _was_ about M-x > after all. This thread was not about M-x until you made it be about M-x. The default filtering in M-x was discussed in a different thread. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no