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From: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: More reliable byte compilation, take 45
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2021 09:06:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sfxfva5y.fsf@alphapapa.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvsfxf7gon.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> And that's all?  Then why not fix that problem right away, it sounds
>> like something that should be easy to fix.  (Though I'm not sure I
>> understand why "some other ELisp file was not loaded beforehand" -- is
>> that a case of a missing 'require' or 'eval-when-compile' or somesuch?)
>
> Often the problem is with packages where you basically have to load
> all/most the files before you can call any of its functions (because of
> mutual dependencies between the files) and where the authors never
> compile the code or only ever compile the code from a running session
> where the files have already been loaded.
>
> Fixing those can be a pain in the rear, not only because of the amount
> of code you need to move between files to disentangle the dependencies,
> but also because it requires educating the authors about it (they may
> not see the value/importance).
>
>> Ah, so the problem is with buggy *.el files, and only with them?
>
> Yes, tho the authors may disagree about the characterization of "buggy",
> in the sense that it works reliably *if* you compile the code by running
> their Makefile.

FWIW, I mostly solved this kind of problem in my own packages by using
makem.sh to lint compilation, which now compiles each file separately:

https://github.com/alphapapa/makem.sh

It detects project Elisp files automatically, so it doesn't require
writing a Makefile or other configuration, which makes it easier for
package authors to use.




  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-05 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-04 10:51 More reliable byte compilation, take 45 Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-04 15:36 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-10-04 16:16   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-04 18:16   ` T.V Raman
2021-10-04 18:21     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-04 19:18       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-04 19:51         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-04 20:13           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-05 11:52             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-05 13:27               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-05 14:06                 ` Adam Porter [this message]
2021-10-05 15:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-04 16:03 ` Steingold
2021-10-04 17:35   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-04 18:59     ` Steingold
2021-10-05  7:14       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-10-05 14:50         ` Steingold
2021-10-05 14:51   ` Steingold
2021-10-05 19:30     ` Stefan Monnier

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