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[92.184.110.39]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c18sm4494987wmb.27.2021.10.10.02.03.32 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 10 Oct 2021 02:03:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8735p9jo51.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sun, 10 Oct 2021 11:10:50 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42a; envelope-from=kevin.legouguec@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x42a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276645 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: >>> I think this inconsistency is unfortunate and unjustified. Can we >>> please move same-window-prefix to "C-x 4 5" for consistency with the >>> equivalent frame command? >> >> Sorry, I meant "C-x 4 4" and other-window-prefix. > > Please explain where do you think is inconsistency. > 'C-x 4 4' is already bound to 'other-window-prefix'. IIUC Eli would find C-x 4 5 more consistent for other-window-prefix (I hope I ran the substitutions correctly; apologies if not). Personally I like the current arrangement: I think of it as "C-x X X for other-Y-prefix", with - X=3D4 =E2=87=92 Y=3Dwindow - X=3D5 =E2=87=92 Y=3Dframe - X=3Dt =E2=87=92 Y=3Dtab I find "mash X to run in new Y" simpler to remember than "press X then 5 to run in new Y".