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From: "Kévin Le Gouguec" <kevin.legouguec@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net
Subject: Re: "C-x 5 5" vs "C-x 4 1" inconsistency
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2021 07:48:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sfx83ydy.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k0ikqp1x.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 11 Oct 2021 05:21:30 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2021 21:07:16 +0300
>> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> If you don't want to use 4 or 5 for both, let's find a different
>> letter, but make it identical for both "C-x 4" and "C-x 5".
>
> How about "C-x 4 x" and "C-x 5 x". where "x" stands for "eXecute"?
> An alternative could be "C-x 4 RET" and "C-x 5 RET".
>
> Would any of these be acceptable?

I don't mind x or RET in terms of mnemonics, but my clumsy fingers find
them less ergonomic than C-x K K.

FWIW, I don't find it shocking that other-{frame,tab,window}-prefix do
not end with identical letters.  True, they are the only commands in the
{ctl-x-4,ctl-x-5,tab-prefix}-map keymaps that break this convention, but
they still follow a consistent pattern: C-x K K, where K is the prefix
key for the relevant UI element.

I also support Juri's suggestion to bind tear-off-window to C-x 4 5: I
feel like the "_4_ to _5_" sequence translates quite well to "move this
_window_ to another _frame_", at least in my head.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-11  5:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-09  9:26 "C-x 5 5" vs "C-x 4 1" inconsistency Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-09  9:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-10  8:10   ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-10  9:03     ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2021-10-10  9:16       ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-10 10:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-10 13:28       ` Daniel Martín
2021-10-10 17:15       ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-10 18:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-10 19:02           ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-10 19:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-11  6:13               ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-10 23:32           ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-11  2:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-11  5:48             ` Kévin Le Gouguec [this message]
2021-10-11 12:11               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-11 13:18                 ` Kévin Le Gouguec

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