From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Brooks Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: linux console limitations Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 21:05:47 -0700 Message-ID: <87sfx4qmhw.fsf@db48x.net> References: <83k0inxvjf.fsf@gnu.org> <83ily7xsjw.fsf@gnu.org> <83ee8uyb3w.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuhqwh87.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1cuwd89.fsf@gnu.org> <875yu4s82f.fsf_-_@db48x.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36990"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 14 06:07:06 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mas1J-0009Py-Mo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 06:07:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57096 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mas1I-0006cs-KO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 00:07:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53124) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mas0I-0005ot-R2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 00:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-out-4.mxes.net ([198.205.123.69]:16184) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mas0D-0005dh-In for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 00:06:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Customer-MUA (mua.mxes.net [10.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4HVG644Zxmz3c8d; Thu, 14 Oct 2021 00:05:48 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mxes.net; s=mta; t=1634184349; bh=EP+moMhryp34fOCvO5JmyWOoOtNZ+AyUZwQ5ci49pC8=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HvVriDDzCdAqOwWraKA/AupSeQceOVkvhLXYLSd89jIZh9z6FxceF+xtr8lAsSaUf yIrMB9oMjarBXmqpYWchRvJrnh93m1CSAvKK8cNEYFPNe+ZBXyPx49sNM6aOwRVqAd j4/bDowwcOx5AnDKYdib2la8gmWDfGbhawemN9qY= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGOfPtRkwAAABJQ TFRFpKfbdou67PD6JjJgAwUWXGSeIcyLHgAAAkZJREFUOI1VU8Fy6yAMxLi+Q13fCZ3cnQL3dqTc 7RD+/1feStDXVnXHDuvVSivZTMba2GPdw3gyCGcMAFxTyrTd9dwGoxHiZX9PmRFUHYAQlGGtXY+F Uk0SJOxgJiUEnH1qkitT9D+pQub7qGAmUbR6bu3CvI96Yv6QqkBBMrsyfZccr1/RDXGDTLf4P7ZY glVxe2V+/ACXWO1gvDO9/gDRpFFVmPluvLcmBjd5H6d8DEte+Pbk4rcY/Fa5tLKLOtCZsuQKYhpa LOkYDT7hESya7/WIET3lfQBqX0pwFtbI832Is0ayMUR9B+12xjgPCQ089cfwkCkX6L5TPmRelJTh zMS0Sz1PyjLAMCUWjcmgQLWQMds+e3aaauZDf9dU9A2/8kPVF2odCUoMKHkfjJR+mbgC+DRiycw5 3XSqGe6HmhN/AWjHypkAXOAFW5EiuA1ge2GiZuMb0s1fSEXcATeLUfbyEY2L8yPOmdSsdghQXx3K pz2eoeXuYvMCINVFDrCdNfVUp4eJ6cSEbjbgFjBEvonGGTrgv9cHjAc8aVgSAPoxaONbzfwhDIhR at7IIS7fAGiDSwIA9alhhTBzfA7YM2FY6eMwayrIGK8FDFmshmUA43WqhFtpvoqG9HHaJ7fqtgTz 8EWVkgZgtsylFliHDgk0MB7KAEC45C/rgnGvanNLXyzOeTzcT2nw/N44gfrtYXRQLoz9Q3TgmJRx 2Mx/Q51qzpm+l3m8z2SWBqC5+PZXAtNYlGFf/gKfHfjFkDT4x7od7R+w3Ls+ZdQBuQAAAABJRU5E rkJggg== In-Reply-To: (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:18:34 +0000") X-Sent-To: Received-SPF: none client-ip=198.205.123.69; envelope-from=db48x@db48x.net; helo=smtp-out-4.mxes.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276957 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: > Some of these articles described how fbterm has "features". Two of > these random features took the key sequences C-M-d and C-M-k. I think > it uses C- and C- to move to the next/previous terminal. > No doubt there are several (or even many) more such features, making the > program not very useful for running Emacs, which uses pretty much all > the key sequences, certainly all the alphabetical keys + modifiers. > > So, I've never tried it either. Ah, I see. That is certainly a nuisance. I guess your choice was between accepting a very limited character set and commenting out or changing fbterm=E2=80=99s dumb key bindings, which is not an appealing option to me either. db48x