From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tick Reduction Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:05:39 +0100 Message-ID: <87sfvswrp8.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87bl2hyzca.fsf@gnus.org> <8735nszpdv.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8830"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Emacs developers , Dmitry Gutov To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 19 08:26:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mnyHi-000242-Eu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:26:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42374 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnyHg-0004tF-Ts for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 02:26:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55362) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnxxz-0003fi-V8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 02:05:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=46814 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnxxy-0002ND-0H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 02:05:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=+kFSoY8ilf1ZBHqmm5Hy+IYAbvh+wg09N0q9Dx7sF7k=; b=WD4knzh14sFXF8/SN9oHBPbHK3 fMYmGCFYv3aRJ3nARntESU7F2X9PpcUBY5Z+cqlOVo9HeDQ/Qkw7dPqf2jwUuqiLWhVoOijBZFzt1 Ki3Wza+Fw6JG5tIPCSigm+5pCannFpqBr7pctgiX9qi2zLnHz+EmXD4y/fPFRPMArq2Q=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mnxxr-00081T-Jt; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:05:42 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEWjaluRSVC3hWRW RUMyLTL///+e1TclAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+ULEwYqOYvC0WMAAAGSSURBVDjLbZSB jcMwCEUx7gBE6QCuJ4iFB7iK7D/TYcCJe1ekqsl/5mNjFICIRPNhg4/QV6zwPzbA8qmXEvkV4WvC HYn5KLPediPVuR9T15iJXQELTp1uV46U7VpfzRmzglNMJ1+PkGyfouAEiuVQICU366cGXP4lQwN7 fBpIkQCUdqHjBpagVdWmC7UBsuodRgIqULxz7GIB1qeUo5pb0dhnXa4EHxcAfPkGsITTBNXOYXsD eASAEMePoRU9H08QvdDqR4ZsHQkr8COn/JPwqb09u2eUBF6J32qnQMSAOlGyPXXBcYESGQjFQC20 222wAVJgTlgrZgcSxU3WDC2CeberddAc6CS2D7DzPVRo+rjacV6mP6A7WIen8pKRbrm+TuliGdfi cTJK2sFookxgQyM8gLX9bHjpMtqkU+hASRmTYa+iI21OA0izBHar7k5v0PfOUVCD459AYuUZwDPe PhLm7OFGoofwx6lHHHOI5FNv13RNCw+BBSxygy9A+Or0ojKv34G7Ii2qXsVlsi1BafsFiDJ+Y1tb e78AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMTEtMTlUMDY6NDI6NTcrMDA6MDBqYjA5AAAAJXRF WHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTExLTE5VDA2OjQyOjU3KzAwOjAwGz+IhQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Judee Sill's _Dreams Come True (1)_: "Til Dreams Come True-Instrumental (studio demo)" In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Fri, 19 Nov 2021 07:50:18 +0100") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279719 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > The ones that come to mind are headers in `C-h C-h' (where it looks > great IMO, but that might be author's bias ;-) and headers in info. =F0=9F=98=80 Perhaps the rest of the text in `C-h C-h' should also use a proportional font? I.e., everything but the keys. > FWIW, I think we could and should use proportional fonts in more places. > For example, the modus themes uses it in the `header-line-format' in > info and it just looks better with no fuzz (though it would work even > better if we added an :align-to text property). > > As you Lars pointed out in your thread about proportional fonts in the > mode line, doing that will also help Emacs look more contemporary. > There are of course many cases where it just won't work, but in other > cases it absolutely will. Yes, I think we should work towards using proportional fonts throughout Emacs (where it makes sense) in the Emacs 29 cycle to get a more consistent and modern look. For instance, "emacs -Q" uses proportional fonts in the menus and the toolbars (on most systems), but not in the mode line or the header lines. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no