From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [nongnu] main 74116339a8 2/3: * elpa-packages (anzu): New package Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 09:05:41 +0000 Message-ID: <87sftkt7ru.fsf@posteo.net> References: <164145738158.2838.5769558384331859964@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220106082302.0A19CC0DA1E@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87k0fdmbat.fsf@posteo.net> <87tueh3s2x.fsf@posteo.net> <87mtjvd10u.fsf@posteo.net> <5EA1F8D9-1F90-4BD9-95AF-CBAFBC237D86@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5237"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ergus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 19 16:51:45 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nADFR-0001AV-0R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 16:51:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33000 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nADFP-0001xr-M8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:51:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33508) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nACWh-0000oS-Rq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:05:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:36915) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nACWd-00089D-47 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:05:31 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FE8624002B for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 16:05:25 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1642604725; bh=VPebLucmdQVJll6oQXsjoMODZ+qc4fJ/9WP9KqEdeTk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Autocrypt:From; b=qUw3kUV8K0OtzfMrSyZZ2PeqCdbSiZXkStD64lA52l0Xrcu7cvEG+T+ceKmH17x+I Rnsuf99nx2Y30LlXwwI9zMY9gQAMUyamRpZnCSo/EHX+R678YWbw6/odVjJ6rbAJ0G 5PqDg8wKarXqPxwF8pnWxhI365DUI+FSA8EIZmzuvXPh8zN/PlidjiS7QvN/PkZdJs Xh/b1pOaEfBrjWSfUe2QDyPlP1NccKQvwBjGRPb/cUdeAPw8qnhE+ztsuBZj3Fsk7I Ij7ooFj1ZsslVzwKuFUK0ixH7KzrCpvg3Ln9iz7d9o1+7GFNHqCu9idX5SFQDS5sMI ROZT/exX2PRrA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Jf88N4HWzz6tn3; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 16:05:24 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <5EA1F8D9-1F90-4BD9-95AF-CBAFBC237D86@aol.com> (Ergus's message of "Mon, 17 Jan 2022 00:16:46 +0100") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=1.592, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284991 Archived-At: Ergus writes: >> >>I think it would be beneficial to think of ways to encourage people to >>consider sending patches to Emacs or packages instead of writing up yet >>another package. This could be in the form of posts on Reddit, IRC, >>blogs, etc. >> > > > To not reinvent the wheel maybe look at the AUR repository page for Arch Linux. > > AUR repository just have a button on every package's page where the > users can report obsolete outdated packages. And where the package > maintainer can adopt or abandon (orphan) the package. I don't think that "obsolete" or "outdated" means the same thing here. While the AUR is a collection of build-scripts that might fall behind an upstream source, I was thinking more of packages that have been "obsoleted" by upstream changes, or by other packages (think of Avy vs. ace-jump, where I think the consensus is that Avy has superseded ace-jump). > When there are issues usually the same users can reply and propose solutions or workarounds to the others or some patches. > > Then when a user updates or install those packages a warning is printed if the package is outdated or orphan. -- Philip Kaludercic