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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290484 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Perhaps something along the lines of: I've now pushed something like that -- I've just altered lisp/Makefile.in to opportunistically start doing the org -> texi conversion while doing compile-main. This shaves off about ten seconds of a "make -j8 bootstrap" build here. I don't think there's any major sections where a typical machine is single-threaded during the build process any more, except when doing the two temacs/bootstrap builds, and I don't think there's much to be done about that. While we're tweaking these things, this reminds me -- should we have a build target for "clean everything but don't require configure to be run again"? In 99.7% of all cases I'm saying "make bootstrap", I haven't changed anything that requires configure to be run again, so perhaps that would be nice to have. Which brings me to a question -- just what is it that triggers the new configure run, anyway? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no