From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andreas Schwab Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-28 2c6a94c5b8: ; Correct the meaning of "cf." in tips.texi Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2022 11:29:38 +0200 Message-ID: <87sfmk8dx9.fsf@igel.home> References: <165908066777.10020.10943301720600410977@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220729074428.12D06C00095@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23432"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?utf-8?B?xaB0xJtww6FuIE7Em21lYw==?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 29 11:58:26 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oHMlG-0005v4-K0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 11:58:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39924 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oHMlF-00046T-GN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 05:58:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46090) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oHMJW-0008DF-EJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 05:29:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:42332) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oHMJS-0008O8-QG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 05:29:45 -0400 Original-Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4LvMfr26hXz1s7tC; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 11:29:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4LvMfr1nSpz1qqkw; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 11:29:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Original-Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AXonB0-_1uOB; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 11:29:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: NYH1IVOaRhzZC+YHlQJzrWs15+ivWxYp78BjW+ll1zzlAZl9RseVVJu91WDOSmrM Original-Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-176-182.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.176.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 11:29:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A1FB42C3335; Fri, 29 Jul 2022 11:29:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Yow: Mmmmmm-MMMMMM!! 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In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Fri, 29 Jul 2022 01:49:13 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.18.0.10; envelope-from=whitebox@nefkom.net; helo=mail-out.m-online.net X-Spam_score_int: -23 X-Spam_score: -2.4 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:292822 Archived-At: On Jul 29 2022, Stefan Kangas wrote: > - In Bug#40011, I quote Writing for Computer Science by Justin Zobel > (2004), which says: > > "It is often tempting to use abbreviations such as 'no.', 'i.e.', > 'e.g.' 'c.f.' and 'w.r.t.' These save little space on the page, > but slow readers down. It is almost always desirable to expand > these abbreviations, to 'number', 'that is', 'for example', > 'compared with' (or more accurately 'in contrast to', since that > is the sense in which 'c.f.' should be used), and 'with respect > to', or synonyms of these expressions. The wiktionary refers to https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/cf, which prefers `cf.' over `c.f.', and uses the meaning `compare with'. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."