From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to remove the "read-only" property... Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2022 12:04:55 +0300 Message-ID: <87sflgoi14.fsf@tcd.ie> References: <87ler8olzx.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23077"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Davin Pearson Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 28 11:06:33 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oSEFV-0005qJ-4U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 11:06:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57652 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oSEFU-0002Zl-1w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 05:06:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57374) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oSEE3-0001Z1-FD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 05:05:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-x436.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::436]:45596) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oSEE0-00063w-VJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 05:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-x436.google.com with SMTP id bq11so6650082wrb.12 for ; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 02:04:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tcd.ie; s=google21; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc; bh=oOJauxhwnQfZPTNFdwMRLDAqVBFgVTw/BYS+2cBb/S4=; b=WHf8ZVoWLSa+0puHuptF0l7BxjCthittN9b2EC4OPNecJ+lJJuZH5U80Zmnp4xZhob fF9pwJrjknQ2wyCcQCUa7nW5utlBfDKN1T/kZ2zTkfajou10wPr5OR4MUFXpGyil3frm IfNc5TE3ezF8KVBCFOSgsum6OPmi7Mvh3yV1iYWAp7qXGI5E6Sl5MsF7zhaZmYhL1YQ8 bipZT1iGdS3bMATp1IPBrStcLhWQxKTQ0kxKYudtwQJYlJ+V7gsiLq+u4P31UPAckP3C 8vbP1eMcgNGFiE87KZX1jGTwiAZmgHvbTX7e30vQCHFDthHtofcaLcrAOT7VGjAnRR/B RMbQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=oOJauxhwnQfZPTNFdwMRLDAqVBFgVTw/BYS+2cBb/S4=; b=uNXUa74dYb+oSjCLDrDQIzDSa1IcBoF81RZTLqL8+V816N9Av8FX1EQl14bMRM92om BPGl4KE92g1X6q3ZVTOx9qXY/FFUbpcLAzXE6+8Rl09WP6i7El63SXr/Vi8lpZfOXNR1 SA9Qm4CjsmeHdY6s7E9pP1ohXwoCl5TBO6MmdF539TMXgr2hQl4uCm7YNJqHYf7ChTlG 7y3nWLQ57w43QyNSTgenSgLVCZltNFK45VPtkxV//WImk+AWIdJJZHAKD208DKvdzFbQ kAnk+TB744X/OQ0MsOr22NigFIdE3ykneclbmCZowEozUMJTmK5PS61pm5hxyMgVA4iE Aaag== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo0juE5Uqnkx8fZ4DxR5otiUahR5ElUr5a5X2XBnVocZEJ35dFyW Iy8qoP0+4BKHnY2cxw1sAgNBxw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR7ZwvOOReKhZzc1dkSSkApAIWFXIpVRRYIbBpiVmlmcnih8BIPrWUFwY6crj6SwXHc8eLKj8A== X-Received: by 2002:adf:d23b:0:b0:226:d4e4:4a6 with SMTP id k27-20020adfd23b000000b00226d4e404a6mr1949161wrh.246.1661677497827; Sun, 28 Aug 2022 02:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ([2a02:587:3214:333a:c0e9:1ff6:e263:f443]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s10-20020a05600c384a00b003a5f54e3bbbsm5104885wmr.38.2022.08.28.02.04.56 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 28 Aug 2022 02:04:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Davin Pearson's message of "Sun, 28 Aug 2022 19:55:03 +1200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::436; envelope-from=contovob@tcd.ie; helo=mail-wr1-x436.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294228 Archived-At: Davin Pearson [2022-08-28 19:55 +1200] wrote: > To my eyes, the defaults (point-at-bol) and (point-at-eol) > are superior to line-beginning-position and line-end-position. The context for why the point-at-bol and point-at-eol aliases are deprecated is in this recent thread: https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-devel/2022-08/msg00702.html -- Basil