From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Org mode and Emacs Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2022 04:14:14 +0200 Organization: GNU Message-ID: <87sfkgdwuh.fsf@bzg.fr> References: <87bkv527p5.fsf@gmail.com> <835yld93w7.fsf@gnu.org> <877d5t0yrn.fsf@gmail.com> <87r140yuof.fsf@gmail.com> <875yl9e7zm.fsf@gmail.com> <83czfh12kp.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmjhghu2.fsf@localhost> <835yl910gp.fsf@gnu.org> <87wndndbhq.fsf@gmail.com> <83bkuzznws.fsf@gnu.org> <877d5mqmkh.fsf@localhost> <83y1y2utnd.fsf@gnu.org> <87r13up587.fsf@localhost> <83o7yyur0l.fsf@gnu.org> <87leu2p3nu.fsf@localhost> <83leu2uewn.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12924"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Ihor Radchenko , theophilusx@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 25 04:15:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ocHAl-00038D-5K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 04:15:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56464 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ocHAj-0005gn-I3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 22:15:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47394) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ocH9w-0004zc-9Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 22:14:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60164) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ocH9u-0006fa-B4; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 22:14:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=tTZnwoy0KiDTXH1Kool+7SYDlkFxjRVPbtf4NLF7VQI=; b=HVvfZEoYN+gD6FTLwOqy 8jwBXVIF3OHP7SLbKAAmvQkIYHSruGG9kYh+RbnsYJ3Qa1nu+ispDJi84iAUC6QbKFy6+oxDYX+JL 0dyGYYKRgBTuz+0aXXuiORsllkT8ocqs5n66e9ooAdxfLSwX8EIaxdrBZlobS8of9JJVCPcrta9gw P/CYMuzs5CG6sKQc2CmcmZfDBHAjI3UsO/if2gsf+1ZiLXmAjCx2gTw+8J6lkZYzUeBB7UGzdoabm CK7Kg4hm1p70AIw+WXOGbApDWSzRB+3uW+MzPScAsGbNNLLH1LI8jru5SDus8BUfuZtzfdYvxGGkE z1+K8SkcwQ5n3g==; Original-Received: from 96.52.140.77.rev.sfr.net ([77.140.52.96]:38056 helo=hal) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ocH9t-0007ch-GV; Sat, 24 Sep 2022 22:14:17 -0400 Original-Received: by hal (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9CE931E0409; Sun, 25 Sep 2022 04:14:14 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83leu2uewn.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 12 Jun 2022 17:36:56 +0300") X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296187 Archived-At: Here is the email I sent when I accepted to switch to using .org as the native format for Org documentation: https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/87371gfas7.fsf@bzg.fr/ As you can read, I wanted to make the switch as an experiment to see if we were really solving a problem here. I believe we didn't get more contributions to the manual by switching to .org, so I'd be in favor of switching back to using .texi as the native format for Org's documentation. (Not for 9.6, obviously, more probably for 10.0 -- I'll discuss this with other Org maintainers.) The other topics in this thread (make Org's Texinfo exporter provide good .texi manuals, make Org more modular, etc.) are interesting, but they are really separate questions IMHO. -- Bastien