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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:304069 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Po Lu >> Cc: arsen@aarsen.me, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2023 21:12:35 +0800 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > But we don't want to, and we have decided long ago to use this >> > mechanism. >> >> The problem is that, as we are using it now, that mechanism does nothing >> different from the more portable equivalents. It will only handle C++ >> exceptions if Emacs is built with -fexceptions, and Emacs is not. >> >> > Once again, let's please make this work like configure does with image >> > libraries, i.e. error out by default if modules aren't supported, and >> > suggest using ifavailable. This will solve the problem cleanly and in >> > a way that cannot be missed by chance. >> >> How about only on GNU/Linux systems, and maybe Mac OS and Windows? > > I don't understand what you propose, in practical terms. Basically, to only default to the error when opsys is set to systems which use GCC.