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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID c99320b9e5285887a1c40d5618de210b; Sun, 07 May 2023 12:54:42 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83h6soe3or.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 07 May 2023 15:17:24 +0300") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21417 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.185.147; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic305-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305952 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Po Lu >> Cc: Shynur Xie , Eli Zaretskii , >> "emacs-devel@gnu.org" >> Date: Sun, 07 May 2023 20:05:33 +0800 >>=20 >> Mattias Engdeg=C3=A5rd writes: >>=20 >> > 6 maj 2023 kl. 16.58 skrev Shynur Xie : >> > >> >> But did you notice that all the faces defined in >> >> use "pre-defined color names" instead of "#RRGGBB"? >> >> I'm a little worried that if we use "#RRGGBB", it might be not >> >> intuitive and not fit with the overall style of . >> > >> > I have no opinion on the matter. I suppose `darkskyblue4` is the >> > closest. Which colour would you prefer? >>=20 >> Please try very hard to avoid using device or intensity specifications >> for colors. This is because many vendors of X servers perform color >> calibration for graphics devices by editing the list of pre-defined X >> colors. >>=20 >> In addition, using non-predefined colors means that you will be more >> likely to allocate a color cell in the default colormap which no other >> program can use. While not as important as it used to be, excessive >> color use is still something to keep in mind when writing programs. > > Personally, I fail to understand why we are considering changes in > default faces for this minor issue. We have enough faces from which > to inherit, faces whose definitions endured many years of use and > scrutiny. Let's not over-engineer, OK? I thought the discussion was about introducing a new face, this time with a dangerous color.