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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 9e2994a4aafff7464c7cb091b657e4d9; Fri, 26 May 2023 00:57:10 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Gregory Heytings's message of "Thu, 25 May 2023 19:23:35 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21495 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.184.44; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic317-33.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306344 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings writes: > This is the misconception I pointed to in my previous post: Rust > libraries are not dynamic libraries, they are compiled into the > program. This eliminates all compatibility problems: you can have as > many programs as you want on your computer, each one compiled with a > different version of a given library. And the point of the crates.io > repository is to ensure that all versions of all libraries will > forever be available, to ensure that a Rust program that depends on a > specific version of a library will remain compilable. And what happens when the compiler changes to no longer compile old programs? Or if I want to re-link the object code for a Rust program with a different version of one of its dependencies? Symbol versioning solves all compatibility problems with dynamic libraries, BTW.