* seeking feedback on keymaps introspection tool
@ 2023-05-29 12:54 Psionic K
2023-05-30 15:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Psionic K @ 2023-05-29 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Emacs developers
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I am close to publishing a package called user-keys. The goal was to
assist in diagnosing and planning out bindings schemes. So far it has
three main functions:
- Show all shadows for a sequence
- Show all sequences from a preferred list of sets
- Show all sequences matching predicates
One possible next goal is to show emulation map updates and listing active
maps with symbols rather than raw keymap data structures.
I am planning to extend the predicate matching to work on mass-unbinding.
Right now it's useful for diagnosing all "stupid" bindings, which I
preconfigured to predicates such as, "modified shift keys" or "multiple
modifiers".
Part of the goal was to develop a transient interface to articulate these
views of the keymaps. I'm not sure how that's progressing since there's
not quite enough functionality to leverage state and input re-use that
characterizes a good context specific interface.
I felt like it's a good time to show what's built and see if anyone has
ideas based on experience about difficulty getting a good high-level view
of active maps and what information they miss as a developer or user.
I attached screenshots to this issue since I haven't made a video demo yet:
https://github.com/positron-solutions/user-keys/issues/1
Thanks
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Psionic K <psionik@positron.solutions>
Software Engineer
*Positron Solutions <https://github.com/positron-solutions>*
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* Re: seeking feedback on keymaps introspection tool
2023-05-29 12:54 seeking feedback on keymaps introspection tool Psionic K
@ 2023-05-30 15:04 ` Ihor Radchenko
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From: Ihor Radchenko @ 2023-05-30 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Psionic K; +Cc: Emacs developers
Psionic K <psionik@positron.solutions> writes:
> I am planning to extend the predicate matching to work on mass-unbinding.
> Right now it's useful for diagnosing all "stupid" bindings, which I
> preconfigured to predicates such as, "modified shift keys" or "multiple
> modifiers".
You are assuming that everybody is using QWERTY and US keyboard layout,
aren't you?
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* Re: seeking feedback on keymaps introspection tool
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@ 2023-06-01 12:18 ` Psionic K
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From: Psionic K @ 2023-06-01 12:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ihor Radchenko; +Cc: Emacs developers
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I finished a rough proof-of-concept for abstract commands on top of command
remapping. I used a macro to generate a mass rebind expression. I can
still use C-n and C-p. I can rebind the abstract commands and all of the
other commands follow. If I add bindings to #'abstract-next to C-; for
example, all of the re-mapped commands are available on that sequence and
shadow appropriately.
Pretty print the macro at the bottom of the user-keys-abstract package see
a mass rebranding expression:
https://github.com/positron-solutions/user-keys/blob/master/lisp/user-keys-abstract.el
The tests also demonstrate the outputs, but are less realistic.
I am currently using Emacs with all of the mentioned keys rebound by the
macro call. The first example of growing pains I found is that Ivy
actually already uses a remap to next-line. Since it wasn't a built-in
Emacs map, I didn't include it in my example macro. I would have to work
on the macro and expression generation to handle remap detection when
performing a move, but this is more a matter of plumbing than complexity.
I was able to use my reporting functionality from the user-keys package to
identify maps to start working on. The commented expressions in the macro
caused errors (binding in the widget-global-map affects the global-map?) or
strange behavior I don't want to invest time in before validating the use
cases.
What I would recommend for Emacs is to implement a first-class named-key
that doesn't have the implementation limitations of the remap only going
through one layer. I would be able to focus on making user-keys into a
better diagnosis and generation tool if I avoid going too deep on top of
the remap-based implementation, which has the one-indirection depth
limitation.
I'll publish the package pretty soon with some small coherence
improvements. While looking at emulation maps, I realized some of them
won't have symbols for example, so I need to figure out a way to represent
the idea to the user. I've worked a bit on generating mass unbinds by
refactoring the reporting logic and it generally looks like there won't be
difficulty.
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 4:05 AM Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> wrote:
> Psionic K <psionik@positron.solutions> writes:
>
> >
> https://github.com/positron-solutions/user-keys/blob/master/lisp/user-keys.el#L142-L147
>
> Nice.
>
> Another idea: some key bindings are risky when using Emacs from
> terminals. For example, bindings like M-<RET> often do not work in
> terminals. It would be nice to provide some hints about which keys may
> not work in terminals, at least approximately (doing this precisely
> depends on terminal being used and is generally not easy).
>
> --
> Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
> Org mode contributor,
> Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
> Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
> or support my work at <https://liberapay.com/yantar92>
>
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Psionic K <psionik@positron.solutions>
Software Engineer
*Positron Solutions <https://github.com/positron-solutions>*
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