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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 1061e91dfcaa5e682d8320408bcc65e6; Mon, 10 Jul 2023 00:18:24 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83h6qd9qkf.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 09 Jul 2023 16:12:32 +0300") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21638 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.186.206; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic310-25.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:307704 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > For this particular example, yes. But we also have a lot of global > objects that are not specific to a buffer or a window. Example: > buffer-list. Another example: Vwindow_list (not exposed to Lisp). > Etc. etc. They should have individual interlocks of their own, instead of sharing a large global lock.