From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Shrinking the C core Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 17:25:23 +0000 Message-ID: <87sf8d7hj0.fsf@localhost> References: <20230809094655.793FC18A4654@snark.thyrsus.com> <87jztzkgct.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87y1if8j8t.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <87y1ifi9fv.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87zg2uqdmv.fsf@localhost> <87edk3gbh3.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87jztvnuyb.fsf@localhost> <875y5bdutt.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87y1i6e1uh.fsf@localhost> <874jkub40o.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87jztqdw2l.fsf@localhost> <87msym9i4r.fsf@dataswamp.org> <877cpp914t.fsf@localhost> <871qfx8yfq.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30870"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Alfred M. Szmidt" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 20 19:25:39 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qXmBG-0007qI-Cg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 19:25:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXmAd-0004xm-In; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 13:24:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXmAb-0004xP-Ps for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 13:24:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qXmAZ-0001sP-Ho for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 13:24:57 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 67FC4240028 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 19:24:53 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1692552293; bh=G1UcrNehIGzG29FF/DMhhRNu+DbIgXQkVVm4loRG2JQ=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=O7ZfsIXT8njMVFYaAq4VYL+0bHhvPaYSqxZg+nOt1GOc9khjK692A1SMgYeUn7WKF +qd0uS2A6sfWPwEwuhp8OPeNEc2eH/x+djWR9Dq3G4r++RE3cJfZb4my1SzZphFi/w v5e2Kms0oFGFASCUpO+N0J9+61c6LVaLyhE1RqEbiHSyfzTiV+NCPU3p46W7W5cm1b BR+1/ehHLa91VW41CVMMuFm6jIQkVPUzR9pMzJpk8AYXiDiyWVJA0Za7j0QvDVhWn7 WFOkwimsBkuYsiolHJBoJBeIcWKq84m35DjXhFSuAv4DV+qNtK4z80wAp8XxuccMWF ZdoBdcdZsoBCw== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RTMtX4wdMz6tvs; Sun, 20 Aug 2023 19:24:52 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -53 X-Spam_score: -5.4 X-Spam_bar: ----- X-Spam_report: (-5.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=-1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:308977 Archived-At: "Alfred M. Szmidt" writes: > Does not look too bad in terms of the number of instructions. And I do > not see any obvious indirection. > > The Emacs VM will incure a switch to C for each call, SBCL doesn't. > You really cannot see the difference that makes? May you elaborate what you mean by "switch to C"? Emacs VM is running in C already. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at