From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: improving the list [was: Re: Changing subject [was: Copyright Assignment]] Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2023 21:45:57 +0200 Message-ID: <87sf6rebgq.fsf_-_@dataswamp.org> References: <877co5gfm3.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83o7hh6l1u.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmw4fz2w.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29223"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:4nS3hUCx2UPD0AuZpq4RtoZN/GE= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 04 07:31:01 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qnuTL-0007I9-RE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2023 07:30:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qnuST-00079B-0G; Wed, 04 Oct 2023 01:30:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qnlLP-0006kt-60 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2023 15:46:11 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qnlLK-0000u9-Ki for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2023 15:46:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qnlLI-0005yi-Ak for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Oct 2023 21:46:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 Oct 2023 01:30:03 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:311260 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas wrote: >>> If I'm allowed to change the subject then, for GNU ELPA >>> one needs [...] >> >> Knowing this list I guess you are [...] > > Please don't encourage that. > > We want to improve the situation on the list, not make > it worse. Okay, so what problem(s) does it have? There has been some increased bad blood in recent days, if that is what you mean, with people getting frustrated at each other and so on - but from where I looked it appeared it was kept at a reasonable level? One should remember that frustration is often because people are passionate about their things, and involve in their activities, including discussing them here, so while frustration is negative in isolation, I think one cannot ban it without also harming the level of creativity among people. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal