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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:317313 Archived-At: Ulrich Mueller writes: Hi Ulrich, >> I know, an emergency release is an emergency release. But w/o any hint >> that it will happen, we have inconsistencies. For example, Emacs 29.3 >> claims to carry Tramp 2.6.3-pre, which is unfortune. > > Does this cause any specific problems for Tramp in Emacs 29.3, apart > from its "unfortunate" version number? No. The "unfortunate" version number is a problem on ELPA, though. The built-in Tramp reports tramp-version "2.6.3-pre". In GNU ELPA, Tramp is listed with built-in version "2.6.3pre". It might be problematic to explain to users, that a bug release "2.6.2.9" would be better than the built-in version. Good chances to confuse people. However, this ship has sailed. We shouldn't increae the confusion by adding further Tramp versions, which mean the same existing Tramp. Best regards, Michael.