From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sean Whitton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: My resignation from Emacs development Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2024 11:50:21 +0800 Message-ID: <87ser8ukn6.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> References: <86o726mlup.fsf@gnu.org> <297cd584-f548-4058-b647-3017b17b71e1@alphapapa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20896"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Adam Porter Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 01 04:51:33 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tHazc-0005Ha-Kk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Dec 2024 04:51:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tHayl-000825-BA; Sat, 30 Nov 2024 22:50:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tHayi-00081e-QR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Nov 2024 22:50:37 -0500 Original-Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tHayg-0000QF-QB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Nov 2024 22:50:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=QjveTf1+gESumK6FMrJUFTmTAIuH+l4euRtRDgbRbklq6ukEm/D+U0ql5Us4qh1BLCQ8qchjPGo58hDw4wUZlQ02xjVwksykaac6bGblmt0l5G/dVbG2n3XgW/gunFRwBbWyQeZaSTwnhtqhn2qDYphi97EctkZEl0r7abLzfn2SO1najpdzvEz0QUXYJRyQ7opM+rWg8ixGoT0wIZL0n//cik3xTMUHK/+p4jJER7+JZzG3wfrBUT4d29pa25vUk6ZQxdLiH14FDi2bxtRGv/VZNVrK4pv4LKTE49eWlYRKUpihM5GgKeZWj5WfwcMKSygOJmhPULyctfadhBFEwQ==; s=purelymail1; d=spwhitton.name; v=1; bh=i6+PFjRwqGWCI6HzZGlsJzYcG0LRkzUiOtGbToiHNoA=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=vXukdJ0LQXURMwmQqSiHz7fd+GC7khBA3v8+3qO8JRIg2r5Hl41MpH7qji36/VF60QJ/vK3UKZDPSXDB4vLHNJZ9UELcswEbExR6FSDgVTH6V1cnkOJFQUQZfQZJzRujQPn/tJvvvjUOzJm2IB1Wdcd49cE59JrQmVjX2scMh7jwQZ68MPmj4t4uRwqipJIzW13XT93gatZCWGtTFcqfklYgdsqZ7oMakKwKm6mEk1kU5XA6A0mPSDw6BIepAv5ELMFXXSwrBV3S4RKPPLVKdUyL9TxG2xtfIROIbvFLXex3prQ6n0Ica6jsQl1Ct2o6hNGohdwmwEi/ZNxQSjm8HQ==; s=purelymail1; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=i6+PFjRwqGWCI6HzZGlsJzYcG0LRkzUiOtGbToiHNoA=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; Feedback-ID: 20115:3760:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Received: by smtp.purelymail.com (Purelymail SMTP) with ESMTPSA id -390738234; (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Sun, 01 Dec 2024 03:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: by melete.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8E6637E4F98; Sun, 1 Dec 2024 11:50:21 +0800 (CST) In-Reply-To: <297cd584-f548-4058-b647-3017b17b71e1@alphapapa.net> (Adam Porter's message of "Sat, 23 Nov 2024 17:59:39 -0600") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=34.202.193.197; envelope-from=spwhitton@spwhitton.name; helo=sendmail.purelymail.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325895 Archived-At: Hello, On Sat 23 Nov 2024 at 05:59pm -06, Adam Porter wrote: > FWIW, I completely agree with Eli. Emacs is not like the others, both > technically, as software, and socially, as a project and community. We assume > good faith by default; we are forgiving of mistakes and "bad days"; we don't > look for reasons to accuse others of various violations, to impose penalties > or threaten to. This place is a welcome respite from what seems to be the > norm. Yes, it is indeed such a relief from other Free Software working groups/communities I interact with. We exchange thoughtful messages, we don't have to open a web browser most of the time, and we make nice commits. It's great. -- Sean Whitton