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From: Pip Cet via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Merging scratch/no-purespace to remove unexec and purespace
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 22:19:55 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87seqghe73.fsf@protonmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o71553yf.fsf@gmail.com>

"Helmut Eller" <eller.helmut@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wed, Dec 18 2024, Helmut Eller wrote:
>
> [...]
>> So the pdumper copies objects from purespace to the dump like normal
>> objects; when loading the dump, purespace stays empty.
>>
>> I had (wrongly) assumed that the pdumper creates a separate section for
>> pure objects.  Creating such a section sounds easy enough (hmm, maybe
>> not so easy because of hashtables).  Still not sure if it would be worth
>> the effort.
>
> Out of curiosity, I implemented such a section with the attached patch.
> It seems that it would save ~2ms per collection cycle.

Very interesting, thank you for sharing!

I tried everything I could think of to disprove your findings, but while
I did find a minor optimization opportunity in the pdumper mark bits
code (a missing eassume (offset >= 0) / eassume (word_number >= 0)),
this affects both branches equally.  I can only conclude that your
observation is accurate, and we now have a number that is still close to
zero, but measurable.

The effect seems to be mostly constant (1-2 ms / GC cycle), but I did
see some slightly larger differences when more objects were on the heap.
Cache effects, probably (PURE_P doesn't have to wait for memory,
pdumper_marked_p_impl does).

(I did run into crashes when running emacs without --batch, but those
are easily fixed and did not affect the performance measurements at
all. I only mention this so that others running tests don't get their
hopes (or fears) up).

Pip




  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-21 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-17 10:47 Merging scratch/no-purespace to remove unexec and purespace Stefan Kangas
2024-12-17 13:12 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 14:20   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 14:30     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 17:56       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 18:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-17 18:56           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-18 12:55             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-18 14:03               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-18 16:05                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18 16:30                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-18 16:25                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18 22:27                   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-19  9:28                     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-19 10:38                       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-19 10:50                       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-19 12:08                         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-19 17:55                           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-19 20:13                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-20 15:59                               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-20 16:22                                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-20 17:25                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-20 20:35                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-20 20:39                                       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-21  6:33                                         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-21  6:56                                         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-20 20:38                                     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-20 20:57                                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-20  8:42                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18  0:18         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-17 19:30 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-17 20:47   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-18  2:15     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-18  7:11       ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-18 13:35         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18  6:56     ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-21 17:41       ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-21 18:32         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-21 22:19         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2024-12-22  1:28         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-22 11:12           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-22 13:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-22 14:12               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-22 15:51             ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-22 17:09               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-22 17:10               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-22 13:13           ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-22 14:16           ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-18  9:30   ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18  0:50 ` Po Lu
2024-12-18  2:12   ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-18 21:26   ` Stefan Monnier

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