From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Non-nil means" versus "On means" in docstrings Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 12:15:14 -0800 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <87r7a2rcbx.fsf@olgas.newt.com> References: <31729.1130452199@olgas.newt.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1130703519 15022 80.91.229.2 (30 Oct 2005 20:18:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 30 21:18:38 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWJcW-00027Z-97 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:17:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWJcV-0002yB-Fy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:17:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EWJcJ-0002xw-VL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:17:24 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EWJcJ-0002xk-F9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:17:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EWJcJ-0002xh-CZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:17:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1EWJcJ-0005OU-9z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 15:17:23 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EWJb9-0001ra-FT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:16:11 +0100 Original-Received: from h-68-165-5-222.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([68.165.5.222]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:16:11 +0100 Original-Received: from wohler by h-68-165-5-222.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 21:16:11 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: h-68-165-5-222.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0snMjK9y8y3U6hq1YrmNdPDgDDk= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:45143 Archived-At: "Richard M. Stallman" writes: > I would therefore propose, for the sake of usability, to modify > checkdoc-this-string-valid-engine so that it accepts "On means" as well > as "Non-nil means". > > This is a real issue, but it opens a can of worms. Your solution > makes it easier to understand in Custom and harder to understand at > the Lisp level. I don't think that is a good solution; that is not > the way to go. > > How to make things clear at both levels, as best as possible with > reasonable amounts of effort, calls for a lot of thought. It should > not be rushed. This is something people can think about now, but > think in terms of doing it after the release. That sounds prudent. I'll stick with "non-nil means" in MH-E for now. -- Bill Wohler http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.