From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: line-move-visual never set to nil? Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:46:29 +0900 Message-ID: <87r6995zq2.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <18571.25125.311010.324079@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87od4k1nj5.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <1F7E32D0-7C19-4950-94DB-F6CD33A56EB0@gmail.com> <6161f3180807290043l2b0cc1as85a338204687f183@mail.gmail.com> <87y73kbvz3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4891F546.2080505@gmail.com> <8763ql7hmk.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <48924CE0.9090603@gmail.com> <87wsj160bf.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <48925AD7.8010907@gmail.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217551602 19052 80.91.229.12 (1 Aug 2008 00:46:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:46:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, david.reitter@gmail.com, Chong Yidong , andrew.w.nosenko@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, raman@users.sourceforge.net To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 01 02:47:31 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KOinq-0007qa-93 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:47:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55492 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOimu-0002CJ-6D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:46:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOimp-0002BT-E0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:46:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOimn-00029d-1G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:46:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51063 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOimm-00029a-QP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:46:24 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:40550) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KOima-0002hg-RT; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:46:13 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.45.67.127.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.45.67.127] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1KOimW-0002S2-96; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:46:08 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 05200DFB3; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:46:30 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: <48925AD7.8010907@gmail.com> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:37:43 +0200") Original-Lines: 20 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101839 Archived-At: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: > I think this case is special. The special thing is the relation between > the visual move and the buffer point. That relation changes according to > something that is rather unrelated with the buffer contents but can > easily be changed by the user. That makes the relation very volatile. Not really, given that (1) window-width changes quite rarely, and (2) most macros are used immediately (in the same buffer/window) and then discarded (or rather, forgotten about). Anyway, what you're suggesting seems every bit as bad, or worse, than the problem it's purporting to solve -- without, as far as I can see, any actual evidence that there _is_ a problem (have we gotten any bug reports?). -Miles -- Freebooter, n. A conqueror in a small way of business, whose annexations lack of the sanctifying merit of magnitude.