From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Rename `mini-' options
Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 16:13:03 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r5yp7c74.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 873ab5fsyu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org> writes:
> the name of the window in question is "minibuffer window".
Er, except that it's not.
For better or worse, Emacs traditionally distinguishes "the minibuffer"
from "the echo area", and resize-mini-windows applies to both. So a
name which captures this subtlety is arguably better than one which lies
a bit for the sake of convenient document searching.
> Drew is right. It is inconsistent with existing practice, and
> confuses something that is already rife with possibilities for
> confusion.
The variable in question _is_ existing practice -- it was introduced
almost a decade ago, in Emacs 21.
> There is precedent in the 3d-party resize-minibuffer mode, where the
> following names already exist:
That (long obsolete) mode does something _different_ than
resize-mini-windows: it only applies to the minibuffer. Thus even if
referring to "minibuffer-window" makes sense for that mode, that doesn't
mean it makes sense for Emacs' builtin behavior.
[I suppose you could argue against the "echo area"/"minibuffer" split,
and say we should just refer to them both as "the minibuffer"
(or whatever), but that's a different argument (and certainly not
something that should happen right now, as it's a big change).]
-Miles
--
Education, n. That which discloses to the wise and disguises from the foolish
their lack of understanding.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-16 7:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-16 1:47 Rename `mini-' options Davis Herring
2009-05-16 2:11 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-16 2:22 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-05-16 2:32 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-16 3:09 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-05-16 4:20 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-16 10:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-16 19:20 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-16 19:47 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-05-16 6:43 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-16 7:13 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2009-05-16 8:24 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-16 9:21 ` Miles Bader
2009-05-16 19:21 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-17 1:59 ` Miles Bader
2009-05-16 9:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-17 4:10 ` Stefan Monnier
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2009-05-15 20:59 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-16 0:12 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-05-16 0:21 ` Drew Adams
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