From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Package Management Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:08:44 +0900 Message-ID: <87r5u7yi6r.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <485b0c380808011427n4d3144eey3f8daf3abac83bf4@mail.gmail.com> <87d45vzt4j.fsf@hagelb.org> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1253052559 14785 80.91.229.12 (15 Sep 2009 22:09:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:09:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: phil@hagelb.org, rms@gnu.org, joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Tromey Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 16 00:09:11 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MngCw-0007xz-DQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:09:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34265 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MngCv-0004CK-PF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:09:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MngCq-0004B4-N2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:09:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MngCm-0004A0-3v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:09:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44621 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MngCl-00049u-Uc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:08:55 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:55762) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MngCg-0002ck-Cv; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:08:50 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.45.67.12.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.45.67.12] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1MngCb-0003C4-NB; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:08:45 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D55932BD61; Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:08:44 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Tom Tromey's message of "Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:58:26 -0600") Original-Lines: 17 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115374 Archived-At: Tom Tromey writes: > This is a side question, but I have been wondering for a while why Emacs > doesn't have CL keyword arguments. Is there a reason? I looked in the > Elisp manual, but didn't see anything. They're complicated and inefficient? Certainly there are cases where they're the best thing, but the CL core seems to use them _way_ too much... forcing users to parse their own keywords makes the complexity more obvious, and hopefully avoids overuse. -Miles -- Joy, n. An emotion variously excited, but in its highest degree arising from the contemplation of grief in another.