From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Integrating package.el Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:46:28 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87r5o2lfy3.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87ocl167wx.fsf@hagelb.org> <8763795zsh.fsf@hagelb.org> <87r5pmwcf8.fsf@hagelb.org> <87ocjh2hyp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <873a0qxrd1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87635gqe8k.fsf@lifelogs.com> <201bac3a1003010832n4973a6d5s29d3db5de84c4c41@mail.gmail.com> <871vg4q80n.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1267556006 9232 80.91.229.12 (2 Mar 2010 18:53:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:53:26 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 02 19:53:21 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmXDd-0001FX-5K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:53:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33972 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NmXDc-0001DA-K8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:53:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NmX7H-0005pI-3O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:46:47 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=54264 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NmX7G-0005ow-Bu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:46:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmX7F-0000f6-A5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:46:46 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:51632) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmX7F-0000ee-4C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:46:45 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NmX7B-0005C2-SK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:46:41 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:46:41 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:46:41 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/QMLQogGDp1AeOLlgXHvmOG6BLg= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121564 Archived-At: On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:39:34 -0500 Richard Stallman wrote: RS> It looks like some people are trying to turn this into a package RS> system with all the features of Debian. Please don't do that. The RS> reason it is ok to install package.el is that it doesn't try to be a RS> full-blown package system. The only major feature that has been added (by Phil Hagelberg) is support for multiple package repositories. I don't think any others are under review; the only outstanding issues I know of are Stefan's concerns about overlapping installs and a request for menus. All the discussion about testing, versions, and dependency tracking is purely theoretical and I expect it to benefit the package repository contributors and maintainers in the long run. I don't think that functionality should necessarily be pushed into package.el. Ted