From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:27:45 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87r5ngt09q.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <201003130001.o2D01FFQ003489@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87vdd1yqe4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87eijjzrkd.fsf_-_@mail.jurta.org> <20100317143519.GB4381@muc.de> <87vdcui6oh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20100318101223.GB2704@muc.de> <400FB8EA6FB8499AB34297A77E9DCB49@us.oracle.com> <87bpelxyu7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87vdcsvn2h.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <871vfgviny.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <0F1993E5BFE847B4AB312467B0CEC7F0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269038439 30058 80.91.229.12 (19 Mar 2010 22:40:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'David Kastrup' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 19 23:40:35 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nskrq-0000ih-C9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:40:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60177 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nskrp-0004R9-Mz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:40:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nskq0-00030j-Gj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:38:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53856 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nskpz-0002zx-2e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:38:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nskpx-0006DS-FD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:38:38 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp-out2.starman.ee ([85.253.0.4]:58259 helo=mx2.starman.ee) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nskpu-0006CL-2h; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:38:34 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx2.starman.ee Original-Received: from mail.starman.ee (82.131.94.132.cable.starman.ee [82.131.94.132]) by mx2.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBDC3F4111; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:38:27 +0200 (EET) In-Reply-To: <0F1993E5BFE847B4AB312467B0CEC7F0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:05:40 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122318 Archived-At: > I can't speak for Juri, but from my view: (1) D-s-mode _is_ > Emacs-typical editing. There are many kinds of Emacs-typical > editing. And (2) the idea behind making d-s-mode the default was not > to make beginners shut up but precisely to help beginners (and others) > be more productive with Emacs. Yes, that's what I meant - to enable d-s-m by default not only because this is what beginners expect but also because it helps them be more productive with Emacs. The evidence is the fact that many experienced Emacs users already prefer d-s-m and have no problems with it. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/