From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:08:41 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87r5iu91cm.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <87lj9ayp2f.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <201007221414.39227.tassilo@member.fsf.org> <876307s8dm.fsf@kanis.fr> <878w539u7m.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279865367 11406 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2010 06:09:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:09:27 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 23 08:09:26 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcBRX-0008Uk-BA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:09:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59745 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcBRP-0002Zl-PU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:09:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=42248 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcBRE-0002Zg-3u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:08:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcBRC-0001IB-GO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:08:51 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:52972) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcBRC-0001Hx-9l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 02:08:50 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcBRB-0008JK-1E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:08:49 +0200 Original-Received: from p508ecc46.dip.t-dialin.net ([80.142.204.70]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:08:49 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by p508ecc46.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:08:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p508ecc46.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nj84Kn8NGtqpQrHp0LGyuXs2NBU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127668 Archived-At: Stephen Eilert writes: > 4- Defaults > Here's where CUA comes in. Users expect the usual copy and paste > behavior (including the ability to copy and paste among application) > and *will* get completely confused by Emacs' kill-ring. The kill-ring > is nice, but it is not straightforward to explain without visual > feedback. If people supposedly get confused by the behavior of yank and kill as opposed to copy&paste, I doubt that we'd be doing them a great service by calling them "copy&paste" and putting them on copy&paste keybindings. -- David Kastrup