From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: bignums (was: Pushing the `gnus-range-*' functions down into the C layer) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:38:51 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87r5h13bpg.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> References: <8739ti68sz.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87pqwm1dsl.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87iq2d4sd5.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8762yd4r7j.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284129564 27680 80.91.229.12 (10 Sep 2010 14:39:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:39:24 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 10 16:39:22 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou4l5-0007wN-1D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:39:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48252 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ou4l4-00063M-2m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:39:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45413 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ou4kv-00060c-Gs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:39:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou4kr-0000xn-Fj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:39:09 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:56685) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou4kr-0000xe-9Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:39:05 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ou4kp-0007lW-6h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:39:03 +0200 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:39:03 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:39:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:LpT1C0mNjnlU9irnUDk/tSTdwiQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:129909 Archived-At: On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:28:36 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: LMI> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> If everything was inside a num64-* namespace and a num64.el package, >> it's a pretty easy implementation. LMI> I think for bignums to be interesting, they'd have to be native in LMI> Emacs. It'd suck if you had a number, but had to say LMI> `(num64+ num1 num2)' LMI> if it's a bignum, and LMI> `(+ num1 num2)' LMI> if not. To take a random example. I understand. But because of this argument we still don't have bignums, because it's such a big project to do at once. IMHO it's easier to get them in somehow and then adapt the C built-ins like + and > to use them. It won't break existing code either, which native support probably will as you mentioned. Ted