From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rethinking count-words-region Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 00:09:06 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87r52nur65.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <87vcs0q05l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87d3e75st9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87r52nw7cx.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87hb3jgqk4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318108754 15202 80.91.229.12 (8 Oct 2011 21:19:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 21:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 08 23:19:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCeIX-0008BB-TL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 23:19:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55507 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCeIU-0003SN-3R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:19:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35839) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCeIR-0003RY-Bp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:19:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCeIQ-0004Cp-BK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:19:03 -0400 Original-Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com ([208.113.175.8]:37705) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCeIP-0004Cg-Rl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:19:02 -0400 Original-Received: from ps18281.dreamhostps.com (ps18281.dreamhost.com [69.163.218.105]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCD46E8093; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39AF451C52D; Sat, 8 Oct 2011 14:18:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87hb3jgqk4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Sat, 08 Oct 2011 16:46:03 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.90 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 208.113.175.8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144769 Archived-At: > In the past, M-= ignored `mark-even-if-inactive' even though it was > working with the region, so arguably the new behavior is more correct. > It doesn't seem clean to make an exception for this particular usage of > the inactive mark, but not others. Yes, this is a general problem, e.g. I can't use `M-|' (`shell-command-on-region') on the whole buffer when there is no active region. This could be improved in 24.2.