From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Raw strings (experimental patches inside) Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 02:28:34 +0900 Message-ID: <87r4rehd19.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <651F6603-F798-4381-929E-7D86A28DBC4D@gmail.com> <502464D6.4000103@gmail.com> <87wr1749m0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344619729 12238 80.91.229.3 (10 Aug 2012 17:28:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:28:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Vr Rm , Emacs development discussions To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 10 19:28:50 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Szt0z-0006mB-5s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 19:28:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60202 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Szt0y-0004PJ-Ah for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:28:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41928) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Szt0v-0004OY-TF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:28:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Szt0u-0004fR-QH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:28:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:36080) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Szt0u-0004du-Gv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 13:28:44 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA48970714; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 02:28:35 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5B6B711F306; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 02:28:35 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" b4715fcbe001 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:152417 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > And here we're back at regexps. I already agreed that they're > convenient for regexps, but pointed out that a better solution would be > to fix the regexp syntax so it doesn't backslash-escape every > special character. Yeah, I know -- I pointed that out too. That's still not a substitute for raw strings in code. You still need to *double*-backslash-escape, backslash-escaping is insufficient. It's only "better" if you have rawstring phobia. > That would help not just Elisp coders but Emacs users as well and > would make Elisp regexps even more readable than raw strings can > ever hope to make them. True, but both is better.