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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Git to Bzr - what works?
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:05:44 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r4mjjvhz.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m2lihfzfqh.fsf@newartisans.com

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 22:18:46 -0500 John Wiegley <johnw@newartisans.com> wrote: 

JW> The problem for me is, I have no other use for Bazaar, and my brain is too
JW> full to try and master another VCS to the extent of being fluent enough not to
JW> be bothered by things like this, so instead I just keep my changes local.

JW> It's an inertia thing, really.  I could find a solution to my problem, I'm
JW> just not motivated to.  In fact, I'm anti-motivated each time I try to touch
JW> Bzr, and it's *just* weird enough from a Git standpoint to cause me problems.

JW> Like when I commit, and the commit goes straight to remote (wait!  I wanted to
JW> push that with other commits!).  Or I set the up indirection, and find later
JW> that my push pushed to a local directory instead of remote (what?  you didn't
JW> get my change?  I just pushed it!).  Etc.

I have had similar experiences.  I would conservatively estimate it cost
me 40 man-hours to work with Bazaar instead of Git when I was doing the
GnuTLS integration.  I lost work several times!  Perhaps I'm an idiot
unable to grasp the subtleties of Bazaar, but I think the *cost* of
using Bazaar to casual contributors like me should be considered.

(asbestos underwear on, preparing underground bunker, etc.)

If a technical solution must be had (and I don't think that this is a
techical problem), let's do it at the origin, providing Git and Bazaar
repositories that synchronize.  Hire/find a person to do it.  Their time
will be spent developing synchronization tools and procedures so the
rest of us won't have to.  Let's not push that pain out to the
contributors in the form of plugins and walkthroughs.

Sincerely
Ted




  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-12-21 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-14  1:35 Git to Bzr - what works? Daniel Colascione
2012-08-14 17:54 ` John Wiegley
2012-08-14 18:12   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-14 19:56     ` BT Templeton
2012-08-15  2:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-15  3:08         ` Fabian Ezequiel Gallina
2012-08-15  4:16           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-08-15 17:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-15 20:45             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-15 23:49               ` Daniel Colascione
2012-08-16  2:52                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-16  3:19                   ` John Wiegley
2012-08-16 15:25                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-16 10:49                 ` Julien Danjou
2012-08-16 12:09                   ` Andreas Schwab
2012-08-17  2:27                     ` Daniel Colascione
2012-08-17  7:06                       ` Daniel Colascione
2012-08-21 16:59                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-15 17:22     ` John Wiegley
2012-08-15 17:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-16  3:18         ` John Wiegley
2012-08-16  3:42           ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-08-16 15:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-17  3:30             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-17  4:02               ` Daniel Colascione
2012-08-17  6:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-17  7:12                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-08-17 15:03               ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-16 15:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-16 22:12             ` John Wiegley
2012-08-17  6:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-12-21 15:05           ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2012-12-21 19:01             ` Karl Fogel
2012-12-22  5:44               ` Bastien
2012-12-22 12:24                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-22 12:48                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-12-22 13:21                     ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-22 13:40                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-12-22 13:51                         ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-22 14:13                           ` Andreas Schwab
2012-12-22 14:11                       ` Andreas Schwab
2012-12-22 13:08                   ` Bastien
2012-12-22 19:20                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-21 23:42             ` Xue Fuqiao
2012-12-22  8:22               ` Juri Linkov
2012-12-22 17:04             ` Thomas Koch
2012-12-22 17:28               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-12-22 19:06                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-24  5:56                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-12-24 13:31                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-12-24 16:30                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2012-12-25  4:12                       ` Bastien

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