From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:29:32 +0530 Message-ID: <87r4jky2ob.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9iwcp.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9fiu0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1363107765 22398 80.91.229.3 (12 Mar 2013 17:02:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Subhan Tindall Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 12 18:03:10 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UFSbR-00057M-Pu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:03:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53364 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFSb5-00074z-GR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:02:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50601) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFSZi-0004xm-44 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:02:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFSYj-0003NX-1n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:01:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f51.google.com ([209.85.160.51]:54838) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UFSXy-0002eW-5b; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:59:30 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id un15so47180pbc.38 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:59:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=RHTjsZEtloCo/cHzYWyYHzm2qhi+SciAIOj8QA7xkdQ=; b=w/QkPVuaQjV/RMpujtd7I2DITguGi1/dE0xlLSRorMkFv6Afr+r2vAvWgjFq/NC/Tx kE+5lFI/ZqJE5zV3Eu+UNSX0tF7bibC3nBs9AZW++4TpJwrJsoNLTMVq4GEQyh3bJG3O cwLC3TB//Ln7iuNwiHSe5ATcx5Osx1prAoNPzF7dt0sI/ygh4ga4b2ye0Vk2sc5gcdUb Hq9Wf41ELcWBuTkauco2TAqNhMeVh4TfvRE2ECpN4VTOldnLJNqpx/Hh5Nv9wBmZeH2D +/JvGfOAgzXURHxQQm/KViY6UKkvflaoFJ2lZwMKbkJ+2J5rKglZue8bBvBGeU9QT6CX hO4w== X-Received: by 10.68.241.102 with SMTP id wh6mr39849532pbc.150.1363107568980; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.241.13.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qb10sm25738526pbb.43.2013.03.12.09.59.24 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:59:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Subhan Tindall's message of "Tue, 12 Mar 2013 09:40:07 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.160.51 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157786 Archived-At: Subhan Tindall writes: > A reasonable person would most likely determine that my intent was add > this code to project X, therefore my copyright was transferred upon > it's creation as part of the contract I signed. My contention is, I transfer assignments unless I state otherwise. So future assignment is really an optimization where the paperwork is minimized both at FSF and at developers side. The other alternative will be to assign copyright on a per-patch basis. If this were the case, I for one will have less incentive to contribute lots of small improvements and FSF staff will be ending up too much paperwork. I am arguing from common-sense. If FSF snatches away my assignments without giving me an option to exercise an exception to assignment, I swear I would rather not contribute to or use FSF-endorsed software. Let's be practical. Text-editors are dime a dozen. I have seen and used better source editors than Emacs. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Btw, People aren't reasonable. That's why their behaviour have to be regulated by contracts and punishments agreed upon and enforced from without so that there can be some control over the outcome of an engagement. ---------------------------------------------------------------- There is intent and there is an event which effects the intent. Both the intent and the act are important. Future assingment is merely an intent and comes in to effect when I commit to Emacs repo. Jambunathan K.