From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:09:30 +0530 Message-ID: <87r4ir4r19.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9iwcp.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9fiu0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d2v4f5bb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87r4jjp2d2.fsf@yandex.ru> <8738vagciq.fsf@gmail.com> <87a9pgayzy.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo9wyr74.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y5d0m3l3.fsf@gmail.com> <515BE920.1000503@online.de> <87obdwvw6v.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <515BF509.2040706@online.de> <87k3ok9bq7.fsf@zigzag.favinet> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364999989 7322 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2013 14:39:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 14:39:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thien-Thi Nguyen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 03 16:40:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNOrI-0004iE-VF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:40:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37679 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNOqu-00005G-8h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:39:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54661) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNOqp-0008Ut-Ve for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:39:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNOqm-0001mt-9N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:39:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-da0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::233]:60698) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNOqm-0001mZ-1m; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 10:39:44 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-da0-f51.google.com with SMTP id g27so689508dan.24 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 07:39:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=CjtZqOns+YmZ5g6dfMTJ/xxA3HZ+sg/lajHMwtnYj0s=; b=lo/UdEOTkOHlCki2grlPBhxYMxqSCxBv8DDZ6TPft6sGVSEfi1B32eerxxuiy6g42G RiT1NWJfr8QTS7+qhQNsLzvq+3jloPMJ+La5yqllPJpf96TTVAisa0tGG5tqkjcCyBeP Qb/Rxwbu6XEv15kVnknt2VGPEtJmmWrZfb8JGt1AgDnon35lbYqZ2WmelgzpSakw1dJn Lsp19jgNiEniQgFptKFxHOCHJGsSqqf3eB9PNQI4qOXyCpc+Eb7JSbFPF5zismjkIU7c af3BfmphVXYtL2xWBwFgX6iXoP7txS4euPrcjqt5sYiP7ttCCqqqqtzFTNvdvVaTz66m pgow== X-Received: by 10.68.254.227 with SMTP id al3mr2878547pbd.184.1364999983160; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 07:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.241.28.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gn2sm6249329pbb.22.2013.04.03.07.39.39 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Apr 2013 07:39:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87k3ok9bq7.fsf@zigzag.favinet> (Thien-Thi Nguyen's message of "Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:58:56 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158590 Archived-At: Thien-Thi Nguyen writes: > () Andreas R=F6hler > () Wed, 03 Apr 2013 11:23:21 +0200 > > Wherefrom the eagerness to remove Jambus's code then? > Seems more people believe that, even if it's wrong wrt GPL. > > The GPL exists to serve a social movement centered around sharing. > Releasing code under the GPL and then agitating to unshare that > (and/or future) code works against both the spirit of that movement > and the efforts of its supporters. I haven't unshared anything. I am un-willing to allow the users of Org mode to enjoy the privileges of my changes within the comforts of Emacs. That's it. So the changes will still continue to be shared and it won't be via Emacs. > It's no surprise then that people perceive continuing engagement as > more effort than necessary on their part, and cannot maintain the > stoicism that considering only the GPL allows. > > Writing this took a few minutes, reading it, slightly less. > Did i add/subtract/multiply/divide, or just compound the mess? Jambunathan K.