From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:40:01 +0100 Message-ID: <87r3w6gy1q.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <5484FF31.5010808@cs.ucla.edu> <5485FC59.5030700@cs.ucla.edu> <87388p6glt.fsf@engster.org> <871to9lw6g.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5486A704.6090305@cs.ucla.edu> <87k321jj4e.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54876F7F.9000607@cs.ucla.edu> <87y4qfj2u9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <54889A57.5060905@cs.ucla.edu> <87vbljb9f4.fsf@wanadoo.es> <54889F6D.6060408@cs.ucla.edu> <87r3w7b83a.fsf@wanadoo.es> <5488C710.3000209@cs.ucla.edu> <871to7ayv9.fsf@wanadoo.es> <5488DC0C.2070402@cs.ucla.edu> <87d27qin2j.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87zjauh08i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418305860 29198 80.91.229.3 (11 Dec 2014 13:51:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 11 14:50:53 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz48m-0005iL-Q6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:50:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51478 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz48m-0002FG-CB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:50:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46816) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz48B-0001Rp-EU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:50:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz489-0001Oy-GD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:50:11 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz489-0001Ou-EE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:50:09 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49697 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xz488-0002Yk-U1; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:50:09 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C0D8AE664E; Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:40:01 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:07:18 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179755 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > But the point I (and I believe others) are trying to make is that with > org-mode you can start simple. Uh, are we still talking about Texinfo? You won't be using more than about a dozen commands regularly. This is not plain TeX. It isn't even LaTeX. It's a boringly stupid and limited markup language that takes very little effort to learn and also is easily recognizable and workable just copying the skeleton of existing files. > And it is still useful. And perhaps, perhaps, org-format could be made > to carry the needed information. (Not sure about that, though!) Sorry, but I don't buy the argument about Texinfo's complexity. And the kind of "I won't touch what I am not previously accustomed to, no matter how simple" hypothetical documentation contributors we are talking about will not be writing substantial amounts of documentation for something as big and complex as Emacs. -- David Kastrup