From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:40:34 +0100 Message-ID: <87r3vx528t.fsf@zigzag.favinet> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87ppbqb6s1.fsf@gnu.org> <87388mme16.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87a92u86wv.fsf@gnu.org> <87d27oliue.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3w2fgux.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <871to1f69o.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87egrza8qa.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418855824 25650 80.91.229.3 (17 Dec 2014 22:37:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 22:37:04 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 17 23:36:58 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1NDF-0008Fb-Da for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:36:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51825 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1NDE-0000kg-RH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:36:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57277) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1NCv-0000kO-GA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:36:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1NCq-00083q-58 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:36:37 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp209.alice.it ([82.57.200.105]:64387) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1NCp-00083Q-Ri for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:36:32 -0500 Original-Received: from zigzag.favinet (82.54.64.41) by smtp209.alice.it (8.6.060.28) id 547E302502704804 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:36:30 +0100 Original-Received: from ttn by zigzag.favinet with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1NGu-0004Ip-Km for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:40:44 +0100 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:44:25 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 82.57.200.105 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180259 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable () Richard Stallman () Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:44:25 -0500 I am still waiting for this. Authoring IXIN, i developed a moderate (by no means comprehensive) understanding of Info (format and .el), so the following comment is obviously biased, and (sorry, no time) not a thorough review as requested: The IXIN format maintains all the semantic features and drops most of the layout features of the Info format, being essentially a re-arranged parse tree dump (in Lisp- and Scheme-friendly sexps) of the Texinfo input. Unhandled layout features are left to the renderer. The IXIN tarballs specify this format and include a proof-of-concept renderer (for Emacs, of course :-D). IXIN is mellifluous to hack. <-- NB: UNABASHED BIAS! For details, i suggest reading The IXIN Chronicles, which can be found in the release tarball (in subdir spec/). To grab the latest (2013-02-16) release: wget http://www.gnuvola.org/software/ixin/ixin-1.8.tar.xz I will post a brief announcement when 1.9 becomes available. Anyway, i welcome additional review / critique from others; no doubt there's much room for improvement. =20=20=20=20=20 =2D-=20 Thien-Thi Nguyen GPG key: 4C807502 (if you're human and you know it) read my lisp: (responsep (questions 'technical) (not (via 'mailing-list))) =3D> nil --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlSSBmYACgkQZwMiJEyAdQLnnQCgoFQV0Nea0e3NyCLvdMmVat6f KDkAn0wQGgr71Uca6ae4SiC4JKhqeIj4 =39wM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--